Have Ripperologists Been Polled As To Who They Think Jack Really Was?

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  • Jon Guy
    Assistant Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 3156

    #31
    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    The true mystery to be solved, the answer we're all really seeking, is why the murders were promoted as being the work of one person.
    Common sense based on what medical evidence we had, perhaps?

    Anyway, it`s a flawed assumption..."we`re all really seeking".
    Last edited by Jon Guy; 12-11-2011, 01:58 PM.

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    • lynn cates
      Commisioner
      • Aug 2009
      • 13841

      #32
      clarity

      Hello Simon.

      "It is becoming increasingly clear that the five murders were not the work of one person."

      Yes, by now it is like crystal. Carry on!

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • Jon Guy
        Assistant Commissioner
        • Feb 2008
        • 3156

        #33
        Yeah, and why five murders only ? What`s that all about ?!?

        Crystal - balls!!

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        • Malcolm X
          Inspector
          • Feb 2009
          • 1289

          #34
          She could not say what the age of the man was, but he looked to be over 40, and appeared to be a little taller than deceased. He appeared to be a foreigner, and had a 'shabby genteel' appearance. Witness could hear them talking loudly, and she overheard him say to the woman, "Will you?" to which she replied, "Yes."

          It's this from the Chapman murder that tends to screw up everything for me, because this is almost definitely JTR, as is the Eddowes suspect, thus it looks like more than one killer.

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          • Monty
            Commissioner
            • Feb 2008
            • 5414

            #35
            Originally posted by Jon Guy View Post
            Common sense based on what medical evidence we had, perhaps?

            Anyway, it`s a flawed assumption..."we`re all really seeking".
            Common sense Jon? That's a concept alien to the fantasist.

            Besides, it doesn't sell.

            Monty
            Monty

            https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

            Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

            http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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            • Wickerman
              Commissioner
              • Oct 2008
              • 14899

              #36
              Originally posted by Malcolm X View Post
              She could not say what the age of the man was, but he looked to be over 40, and appeared to be a little taller than deceased. He appeared to be a foreigner, and had a 'shabby genteel' appearance. Witness could hear them talking loudly, and she overheard him say to the woman, "Will you?" to which she replied, "Yes."

              It's this from the Chapman murder that tends to screw up everything for me, because this is almost definitely JTR, as is the Eddowes suspect, thus it looks like more than one killer.
              The difference, if that is what you are looking for, is that Mrs Long saw Chapman's face and recognised her as the woman in the mortuary..

              "I saw the woman's face. Have seen the deceased in the mortuary, and I am sure the woman that I saw in Hanbury-street was the deceased."

              Lawende could not offer the same assurance, he only "thought" the clothes he was shown looked like those which the woman was wearing. And as many of these women dressed in very similar dark attire, Lawende's is not a reliable sighting.

              It is purely personal preference which keeps Lawende's sighting in the forefront.

              Regards, Jon S.
              Last edited by Wickerman; 12-11-2011, 04:38 PM.
              Regards, Jon S.

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              • Simon Wood
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 5552

                #37
                Hi Monty,

                Actually, common sense is a concept most alien to Luddites and Flat Earthists.

                Have a safe, warm Christmas and a very happy New Year.

                Regards,

                Simon
                Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                • lynn cates
                  Commisioner
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 13841

                  #38
                  description

                  Hello Malcolm. After having read Mrs. Long's description go to Chris Scott's Isenschmid thread and read his description.

                  Have you reached satori yet?

                  Cheers.
                  LC

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                  • Jon Guy
                    Assistant Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 3156

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Monty View Post
                    Common sense Jon? That's a concept alien to the fantasist.

                    Besides, it doesn't sell.

                    Monty
                    Absolutely, Neil, absolutely, tee-hee

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                    • Simon Wood
                      Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 5552

                      #40
                      Hi Lynn,

                      Kensho would probably be a good first step for Jack's adoring fans.

                      I kid you not, but every Friday and Saturday evening there's a food truck in Covina which offers a Buddhist Burger, described on the menu as "One With Everything".

                      Regards,

                      Simon
                      Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                      • Rubyretro
                        Chief Inspector
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 1906

                        #41
                        Jon -I think common sense should tell us that not only were the canonicals
                        murdered by the same person, but others of the same period were also by murdered by him.

                        I'd definitely include at least Tabram...
                        http://youtu.be/GcBr3rosvNQ

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                        • Jon Guy
                          Assistant Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3156

                          #42
                          Indeed Ruby. Mutilator murderers are extremely rare, especially what our boy was doing. The enlightened see it as some sort of parlour game with smoke and mirrors, copycats and domestics.

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                          • Simon Wood
                            Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 5552

                            #43
                            Hi Jon,

                            Most interesting.

                            How do the unenlightened see it?

                            Regards,

                            Simon
                            Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                            • Jon Guy
                              Assistant Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3156

                              #44
                              I can only speak for myself, Simon, I wouldn`t dare to assume their points of view.

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                              • Simon Wood
                                Commissioner
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 5552

                                #45
                                Hi Jon,

                                Nicely played.

                                Regards,

                                Simon
                                Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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