Upon what basis did the Druitt family suspect Montague?

[Digalittledeeperwatson]

Hullo pinkmoon.

Call me old fashioned but when someone's going out killing and mutilating women with a knife I think we can assume they are quite far away from been normal

Context.

[Digalittledeeperwatson]

Hullo pinkmoon.

I like your signature by the by. #3 is usually best hidden in plain view.

[pinkmoon]

All I'm trying to say is that there is a very strong possibility that the killer is in a very confused state after the murders .By saying he's gone in this direction because he's heading home he might not know himself what he's doing

[Wickerman]

All I'm trying to say is that there is a very strong possibility that the killer is in a very confused state after the murders .By saying he's gone in this direction because he's heading home he might not know himself what he's doing

Robert Clifford Spicer, of Saville-row, Woodford Green, Essex, who was a uniformed constable aged twenty-two, at the time of the Jack the Ripper outrages were terrorising London.

"I had the pleasure of capturing him, and taking him to Commercial-street police station, after he had committed two murders."

"On this particular night I had walked my beat backwards and had come to Henage-street, off Brick Lane. About fifty yards on Henage-street is Henage-court. At the bottom of the court was a brick-built dustbin."

"Both Jack and a woman (Rosy) were sitting on this. She had 2s in her hand and she followed me when I took Jack on suspicion"

http://www.casebook.org/press_reports/daily_express/310316.html

After the killer dropped the apron, why should we assume he was finished?

[Digalittledeeperwatson]

Hullo pinkmoon.

All I'm trying to say is that there is a very strong possibility that the killer is in a very confused state after the murders .By saying he's gone in this direction because he's heading home he might not know himself what he's doing

One more then I shall stop disrupting the thread. Apologies.

I respect the possibility that the killer may have been in a confused state. Alhough, I am not sure I see anything to suggest it more likely than not. Or it being particularly 'strong'. I would like your reasoning for this as I could be missing something entirely or your instinct could be spot on. If you would be so kind? Much appreciation in advance.

[pinkmoon]

Based purely on what he's doing not exactly normal behaviour when you look at photo of the poor victims you can have no doubt that who ever is doing this is a million light years from normal .I would like to point out I have no professional training on this and I'm just taking an educated guess

[Digalittledeeperwatson]

Thanks pinkmoon.

Based purely on what he's doing not exactly normal behaviour when you look at photo of the poor victims you can have no doubt that who ever is doing this is a million light years from normal .I would like to point out I have no professional training on this and I'm just taking an educated guess

Again I should say context could have baring. No prof training? No worries about that. Sometimes all that amounts to is a bloody piece of paper. Don't undermind your 'novice' status. What did the police always call Holmes? Amateur it was I do believe.

[Digalittledeeperwatson]

Hullo Wickerman.

What is known of Mr. Spicer? First time reading this. A little finger pointing would be appreciated. Now I really have finished disturbing this thread.

[Wickerman]

What is known of Mr. Spicer? First time reading this. A little finger pointing would be appreciated. Now I really have finished disturbing this thread.

All that is known is via the link I provided, it was a newspaper interview.

I might add, I have not been able to locate a PC Spicer as a Met. Constable in 1888, but others may have.

[pinkmoon]

respected member of society

What type of person would macnaughton have believed in regard to his "private information" it would have to be some one very trust worthy and well respected a priest may be? If this story that a priest took a confession from murderer is true would a priest be able to keep such an horrendous thing to himself.surely macnaughton would have to keep this source of information to him self because priest would be breaking his oath

[Wickerman]

What type of person would macnaughton have believed in regard to his "private information" it would have to be some one very trust worthy and well respected a priest may be? If this story that a priest took a confession from murderer is true would a priest be able to keep such an horrendous thing to himself.surely macnaughton would have to keep this source of information to him self because priest would be breaking his oath

Like a brother you mean?

[pinkmoon]

druitts brother

Surely after his brothers death the last thing the family would want is any connection with these revolting crimes

[Robert]

Robert Clifford Spicer undoubtedly existed, and I have seen family trees on Ancestry in which he is mentioned. It looks to me like he was dismissed in 1889 :

http://www.casebook.org/dissertations/h-division-personnel.html

[Lechmere]

Brother? Don’t think so.

‘…from private information I have little doubt but that his own family believed him to have been the murderer.’

or

‘From private information I have little doubt that his own family suspected this man of being the Whitechapel murderer.’

That doesn’t sound like the private information actually came from the family. It sounds like the family told someone who privately told him. Hearsay.

[pinkmoon]

To give him a believably source to his story?