Upon what basis did the Druitt family suspect Montague?

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  • Wickerman
    Commissioner
    • Oct 2008
    • 14900

    #511
    Originally posted by Lechmere View Post

    Wickerman – regarding your Sutcliffe question. I would strongly suspect that Sutcliffe is not the sort of person who would commit suicide. The answer to your hypothetical question is that of Sutcliffe were fund floating down the river with a suicide note then it should be regarded with severe suspicion. Druitt wasn’t a serial killer though.
    Precisely the answer I was looking for Ed.
    Of course, your final conclusion is still the point of great debate.
    Regards, Jon S.

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    • Damaso Marte
      Sergeant
      • Jan 2012
      • 612

      #512
      How do the Druittists on this site reconcile their suspect with his well-known cricket schedule? Do they deny that he played those games, or argue that he hung around Whitechapel for hours after a double murder?

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      • lynn cates
        Commisioner
        • Aug 2009
        • 13841

        #513
        rum job

        Hello Damaso.

        "How do the Druittists on this site reconcile their suspect with his well-known cricket schedule?"

        Well, it has been observed that, after the Chapman slaying, he played cricket but made a rum job of it.

        Cheers.
        LC

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        • Wickerman
          Commissioner
          • Oct 2008
          • 14900

          #514
          Originally posted by Damaso Marte View Post
          How do the Druittists on this site reconcile their suspect with his well-known cricket schedule? Do they deny that he played those games, or argue that he hung around Whitechapel for hours after a double murder?
          There is no conflict between any cricket schedule and a murder. The nearest contention is that where approx. 5-6 hours is noted between the murder of Annie Chapman at about 5:30 am, and his appearance at Blackheath for 11:00-11:30 am.

          Druitt had chambers nearby and relatives in the Mile End road, so 'hanging around' in plain sight, as you seem to allude to, was not necessary.

          I wouldn't call myself a 'Druitist' as I do not see a good reason for him being suspected in the first place, but I do acknowledge that he is possibly thee most researched suspect we have, and I think thee original suspect, and yet for all we have learned about him nothing has been unearthed to eliminate him as a suspect.
          Regards, Jon S.

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          • Stephen Thomas
            Chief Inspector
            • Feb 2008
            • 1728

            #515
            Originally posted by caz View Post

            I don't know about anyone else, but if I had got sacked from my job/thought I was going like my mother/feared I might hang for murdering a series of prostitutes/waded into the Thames in December to end it all (delete whichever may not apply) I reckon I'd have been suffering from rather severe depression.
            I love life and life loves me
            I'm as happy as can be
            A happier man nowhere exists
            I think I'll go and slash my wrists

            (Jules Feiffer c.1960)
            allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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            • Lechmere
              Inactive
              • Oct 2010
              • 3450

              #516
              Wickerman
              As I understand it Montague Druitt was not related to the Mile End Druitts, unless it was very very distant. there is no reason to connect them beyond their having the same surname.

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              • Wickerman
                Commissioner
                • Oct 2008
                • 14900

                #517
                I was thinking back to the work of Andy Spalleck, he mentioned a Jabez Druitt living in the Mile End road, but maybe this was a false lead?
                Regards, Jon S.

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                • Lechmere
                  Inactive
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 3450

                  #518
                  I pretty sure that was disproved.

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                  • Paddy
                    Sergeant
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 842

                    #519
                    Family

                    Its highly likely his three sisters were all living in New Cross Road with Rev William Hough, Georgianas' husband. (5 minutes on a bus from Blackheath)
                    Its possible the two younger single sisters went to live there when their mother went into hospital. They were all there in 1891 census

                    Pat...................

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                    • Paddy
                      Sergeant
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 842

                      #520
                      Jabez Druitt

                      I just looked at the trees of Jabez and Montague and went back as far as 1750s, No relation at all (maybe a lot earlier)

                      Pat............................

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                      • Damaso Marte
                        Sergeant
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 612

                        #521
                        OK. So the prevailing hypothesis among Druittists is that he would hide in his office after ripping, to wait for the trains to take him home in the morning?

                        How does this square with the location of Eddowes's apron?

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                        • Wickerman
                          Commissioner
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 14900

                          #522
                          It isn't necessary for him to hide anywhere, the idea that the killer must be covered in blood an 'idea', nothing more.
                          Doctors claimed at the time the killer need not be covered in blood.

                          All the apron drop indicates is the direction he was headed, why do you assume he was finished that night?
                          Regards, Jon S.

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                          • pinkmoon
                            Chief Inspector
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 1813

                            #523
                            killers movements

                            When we try and guess the killers movements we do seem to forget that we are dealing with a person who is not acting in a rational way.The person who was doing this was unhinged to what degree we do not know we should always bear that in mind when trying to predict what his movements were before or after murder
                            Three things in life that don't stay hidden for to long ones the sun ones the moon and the other is the truth

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                            • Digalittledeeperwatson
                              Sergeant
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 635

                              #524
                              Hullo pinkmoon.

                              Originally posted by pinkmoon View Post
                              When we try and guess the killers movements we do seem to forget that we are dealing with a person who is not acting in a rational way.The person who was doing this was unhinged to what degree we do not know we should always bear that in mind when trying to predict what his movements were before or after murder
                              I can't agree with this. How do we know the killer was not acting in a rational way?
                              Valour pleases Crom.

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                              • pinkmoon
                                Chief Inspector
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 1813

                                #525
                                Call me old fashioned but when someone's going out killing and mutilating women with a knife I think we can assume they are quite far away from been normal
                                Three things in life that don't stay hidden for to long ones the sun ones the moon and the other is the truth

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