Cutbush Relatives

[Cap'n Jack]

Is this the newsagent that Thomas used to visit to buy his Croydon Advertiser;and who wrote to the Sun?
Interestingly this Cutbush inherited through the Haynes side of the family.

'Draft surrender, engrossed copy and warrant ACC/0351/433, 434, 435 1899

Contents:
William Cutbush of High Street, Highgate newspaper agent, to Edward Lyon Shelton of Manor House, Hornsey Solicitor and Amelia his wife.
to enter satisfaction of mortgage.
7 cottages as in ACC/0351/432.
Remarks: In warrant Rev. G. S. Weston is described as of 117 London Road, St. Leonards on Sea, co. Sussex and W. B. Lofthouse as of Endcliffe, Caterham Valley. Co. Surrey, gent.'

[Debra A]

For Gloria and Keith, if either of you are looking in, I managed to relocate the photograph of Mabel Jane Cutbush I mentioned earlier in the thread .

Mabel Jane Cutbush was b c 1864, daughter of Horatio R Cutbush of Newspaper Proprietor, Maidstone. She was organiser and Commandant, Rosslyn Auxillary Hospital, Hampstead.
London Gazette 2nd Supplement
Date: 7 Jan. 1919 Document Reference: DEC. 8/221


I still think she has a look of Edward Cutbush from the portrait posted by Keith, especially around the nose, eyebrows and mouth. I think she was caught on camera with her eyes half closed though!



Photo source;
Women at Work Collection, from the Imperial War Museum, London
Section: Supplementary Material
Heading: Press Cuttings: Hospital and Nurses - Red Cross
Title: Rosslyn Lodge, Auxiliary Military Hospital, Hampstead: Photographs
Date: 1917 Document Reference: SUPP. 28/40

[Gidget]

Hi Gloria
Sorryfor the delay but have been away.
I am particularly interested in tracing the Flood branch of my family.
My ancestor, Henry Kingsmill, refers to his "Cousin Flood" who was High Sheriff when he was Sub-sheriff, when Henry was resident near Borris-in-Ossory, co. Laois. I think that this may be the Flood from Middlemount, co. Leix, ca. 1780, referred to in the "Irish Midlands Ancestry: Parish of Aghaboe" website.
There also several registrations in the land valuations in Middlemount or Ballyvoghlaun, co. Leix, for Edward Flood Esq. ca. 1837 - 1850.
My Henry Kingsmill's grandmother was Mary Flood, who married Henry Kingsmill (snr), who was the daughter of Luke Flood who had married Mary Vicars.
There appears to be two branches of the Flood family: one in Kilkenny, and one in co. Laois, and are likely related, as there was also a Francis Flood who was High Sheriff of Kilkenny in 1778, and given their occupation.
I am also interested in tracing the origins of Police Const. 2213 Ernest Flood of the Victorian Police, the arch-nemesis of Ned Kelly, who traveled freely in 1862 aboard the Shalimar from Liverpool to Melbourne as a 19 year old, who I am informed as having originated from "Paulstown" Kilkenny. His parents were William Flood and Mary Doyle, according to his Victorian death registration of 1899. I am sure that he is connected, but just where I don't know!
I was wondering if you may have had any more luck than I in tracing the family Flood?
I have my "work in progress" family tree at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-...ourmob&id=I524
Also, an old pedigree chart from Ireland in two parts:

http://www.users.on.net/~lamingtonchild/RobertsRepository/FamilytreeKingsmill,PalmerAbbott1.JPG

http://www.users.on.net/~lamingtonchild/RobertsRepository/FamilytreeKingsmill,PalmerAbbott2.JPG

Any contribution would be greatly appreciated, if you have anything further on the Flood family.

[Robert]

Hi Gloria

LVP means Late Victorian Period.

AP, what what what what what? I didn't know Neddie had been deaded.

[Gloria]

Hi Robert, Yep, I have seen the ginger-bread house. Isnt it lovely? And thanks for the War Memorial details.

Glor

[Gloria]

S.A. Meeks

No worries, Gloria, always glad to help out.
Regarding 'Meeks'; was your South African family Presbyterian?
There is an interesting case from around the LVP in South Africa - Meek V Meek - where a Meek attempts to plead his own insanity in court.
I wonder what he did?

Hi Cap'n

Who knows what they were religionwise. It looks to me like in our overall family we have been everything, well almost.....

How bizarre. Did you manage to read anything that would give you a clue about the case of Meek vs Meek? I'd be very interested as the S.A side of the Meek family has been a closed door to me. You'd think that I would have all the information, but I can find more going backwards.

What does LVP stand for by the way?

All the best,

Glor

[Cap'n Jack]

Sorry, Robert, yes I did.
It appears that Neddy Seagoon was my dad.

[Gloria]

Kingsmills/Flood/Mears

Hi Gloria
I know that this is off topic but I couldn't help but note your family connections! (Rev) Joseph and (Rev) Henry Kingsmill are my first cousins several times removed, Thomas an uncle similarly, noting that Sarah Mears was married to Joseph. This was his second marriage, with apparently no children from this latter marriage, his first wife being Margaret E Burt. His brother Henry married Ellen E Burt, who I presume is her sister. Thomas Kingsmill was their father and brother of my direct ancestor (another) Henry Kingsmill ('of Boris'). I don't know if this is the same Thomas to whom you refer. Their great grandfather was apparently Luke Flood. It looks as tho we are convoluted cousins of sorts! I was wondering if you had any more information on the Mears and Flood connection to the Kingsmill's?
Part of the tree at: http://www.users.on.net/~lamingtonch...merAbbott2.JPG (ignore the 'my father' comment as that was written by someone else)

Hi, and very many thanks for the printout you sent me. It was very helpful. My printer is not too good at the moment on the greenish/blue colour, so it was not terribly clear.
I have three Thomas Kingsmills.
1.Thomas Kingsmill 1798 born in Ireland - 1818
2. Thomas Kingsmill 1762 - 1846 Died in Ireland married Jane Palmer
3. Thomas Kingsmill 1710 born Didmount, Hampshire - Died 1771 Eire

Parents of 1. = Thomas and Jane
2. = John and Eleanor
3. = William and ?

I don't have dates for Sarah Mears married to a Joseph Kingsmill whose parents were Thomas Kingsmill and Jane Palmer

Regarding Flood and Mears connections, this is what I have:

Henry Kingsmill 1700 - 1774 married Mary Ann Flood 1705 - ?
Joseph Kingsmill 1806 - 1866 married Sarah Mears (no dates)

If you can tell me what you need informationwise, I would be happy to sent it to you.

All the best,

Glor

[Robert]

AP, did you get the letter?

[Cap'n Jack]

No worries, Gloria, always glad to help out.
Regarding 'Meeks'; was your South African family Presbyterian?
There is an interesting case from around the LVP in South Africa - Meek V Meek - where a Meek attempts to plead his own insanity in court.
I wonder what he did?

[kayjays]

Gloria,

I have sent you a private message re GED file.

Keith

[Gidget]

...MATILDA CATHERINE MEARS b 1807 d 1829
married LUKE FLOOD CUTBUSH to whom I am a half 2nd great grand niece.
SARAH MEARS (no dates) married JOSEPH KINGSMILL to whom I am a 3rd cousin 3 x removed. Another SARAH MEARS b 1760 married THOMAS KINGSMILL to whom I am a 2nd cousin 4 x removed...

Hi Gloria
I know that this is off topic but I couldn't help but note your family connections! (Rev) Joseph and (Rev) Henry Kingsmill are my first cousins several times removed, Thomas an uncle similarly, noting that Sarah Mears was married to Joseph. This was his second marriage, with apparently no children from this latter marriage, his first wife being Margaret E Burt. His brother Henry married Ellen E Burt, who I presume is her sister. Thomas Kingsmill was their father and brother of my direct ancestor (another) Henry Kingsmill ('of Boris'). I don't know if this is the same Thomas to whom you refer. Their great grandfather was apparently Luke Flood. It looks as tho we are convoluted cousins of sorts! I was wondering if you had any more information on the Mears and Flood connection to the Kingsmill's?
Part of the tree at: http://www.users.on.net/~lamingtonch...merAbbott2.JPG (ignore the 'my father' comment as that was written by someone else)

[Gidget]

Flood Merars connection

...MATILDA CATHERINE MEARS b 1807 d 1829
married LUKE FLOOD CUTBUSH to whom I am a half 2nd great grand niece.
SARAH MEARS (no dates) married JOSEPH KINGSMILL to whom I am a 3rd cousin 3 x removed. Another SARAH MEARS b 1760 married THOMAS KINGSMILL to whom I am a 2nd cousin 4 x removed...

Hi Gloria
I know that this is off topic but I couldn't help but note your family connections! (Rev) Joseph and (Rev) Henry Kingsmill are my first cousins several times removed, Thomas an uncle similarly, noting that Sarah Mears was married to Joseph. This was his second marriage, with apparently no children from this latter marriage, his first wife being Margaret E Burt. His brother Henry married Ellen E Burt, who I presume is her sister. Thomas Kingsmill was their father and brother of my direct ancestor (another) Henry Kingsmill ('of Boris'). I don't know if this is the same Thomas to whom you refer. Their great grandfather was apparently Luke Flood. It looks as tho we are convoluted cousins of sorts! I was wondering if you had any more information on the Mears and Flood connection to the Kingsmill's?
Part of the tree at: http://www.users.on.net/~lamingtonch...merAbbott2.JPG (ignore the 'my father' comment as that was written by someone else)

[Gloria]

Cap'n,

Another thanks for the snippet of Archer/Ward info. I am getting a bit snowed in with info, but will chase it up as soon if not sooner.

Glor

[Gloria]

Perrey news

Gloria
I don't know whether this little snippet helps?

'ALFRED EDWARD PERREY.
He came from Warrington, Lancashire.
Born 20 Oct 1871 in ?Warrington, Lancs
Died 14 Feb 1954 in Pretoria, /south /africa
Married MARGARET CUTBUSH MEEK in Johannesburg (no date of birth for her or marriage date)
Issue:
ROWLAND EDWARD PERREY
Born 21 May 1910 in Johannesburg, South Africa
Died 12 Sept 1984 in South Africa
VEE (PERREY) CHRISTIANE
Born 18 Nov 1911 in Johannesburg, South Africa
Died 15 May 2008 in Pretoria, South Africa'

Cap'n, That's really marvelous. How do you do it ???

That's my Grandfather alright, his wife Margaret, shame there are no dates, and of course I had my uncle Rowland and my very dearest Mothers dates.

As you have been so very clever, what about the MEEK family, there are a rake of them, and the ones from South Africa have quite interesting entries.

Glor