Cutbush Relatives

[Debra A]

Great portrait Keith, ages ago I came across a photograph of a lady named Mabel Cutbush, daughter of the Maidstone newspaper Cutbush family....I haven't got it to hand to compare at the moment but I was looking at it quite recently, Edward's features do seem similar to hers as far as I can remember... odd, as I don't think they were even related though!

[kayjays]

Hello Gloria,

Thanks for the welcome. I have John Joseph Meek down as married to by great great aunt Clarissa Cutbush, but nothing more known. I am hoping to meet with a cousin of sorts soon and expect to develop rather more on the Cutbush-Flood-Gripper family, and will happily share anything exciting.

Keith

[Gloria]

Cap'n Jack, Any further leads of Thomas Taylor Cutbush in South Africa, dead or alive??
Regards,
Gloria

[Gloria]

Cutbush relatives

Keith, Hi!

My name is Gloria and I am a half second cousin 2 x removed to Thomas Hayne Cutbush, welcome to the Forum.

I am not very good on the computer and have just literally fallen on your PM's to Robert, Debs and Cap'n Jack.

Do you have any information of the Meek side of the family? I would be very happy to fill you in on anything I have on Cutbush/Flood/Mears and others.

Regards,
Gloria

[Gloria]

Keith, Hi!

My name is Gloria and I am a half second cousin 2 x removed to Thomas Hayne Cutbush, welcome to the Forum.

I am not very good on the computer and have just literally fallen on your PM's to Robert, Debs and Cap'n Jack.

Do you have any information of the Meek side of the family? I would be very happy to fill you in on anything I have on Cutbush/Flood/Mears and others.

Regards,
Gloria

[Robert]

Hi Keith

Thanks very much for that splendid portrait. Yes, if this was Edward Cutbush son of TFC at, say, 60, that would put a date of 1880 on the painting, and perhaps he does look a little old-fashioned for such a date. On the other hand, and going from memory, wasn't Edward a banker? Such folks aren't noted for their cutting edge appearance.

Robert

[kayjays]

Good Day Robert,

I think there are only two alternatives:

1. Edward Cutbush the son of Thomas Hoskins Cutbush

or

2. Edward Cutbush 1820-1890 son of Thomas Flood Cutbush and the grandfather of my own grandmother.

I think the latter to be more likely because of the closer family link. However, the dress in 2. looks to me as being a bit dated for a middle aged man in say 1850, but I am obviously not an expert. I will try an attachment here.

keith

[Robert]

Hi Keith

Thanks. Re Edward, which Edward is this? I have Edward the brother of Thomas Cutbush and the uncle of Thomas Taylor Cutbush (the father of Thomas Hayne Cutbush) as being born 1819 and dying 1890.

Robert

[kayjays]

Hi Robert,

No family photos I am afraid, but there are portraits, three to be precise, one of whom is Edward Cutbush 1820-60 and the other two are unidentified. But something may still turn up.

[Robert]

Hi Keith and welcome

I don't suppose there are any family photos?

Robert

[kayjays]

Hi Debra,

Glad you found my post ! Yes it seems that my Great Great Grandfather was Edward Cutbush and his brother Thomas was the father of Thomas Taylor Cutbush and grandfather of Thomas Hayne Cutbush.

On the real estate issue, the Cutbushs seem to have built themselves quite an empire but it did no harm marrying into the Flood clan, the most distinguished of whom was Luke Flood, who died in 1860 and for whom Flood Street in Chelsea is named. He was a great benefactor to charity and gave huge sums to widows, poor houses and the church. You probably know all this, so forgive me.

[Debra A]

Hi Keith,
Glad you joined up and posted!You are also some sort of cousin to Thomas Hayne Cutbush?
I thought some on here were interested in the properties the Cutbushes owned around Whitechapel, whatever you have is welcome I'm sure, and thanks for posting.

[kayjays]

Hi Everybody,

My first post, so please be kind; I'm a virgin.

I am a great great great great great grandson (I think I got that right) of Thomas Hoskins Cutbush.

I have in my possession original documents passed down to me through my maternal grandmother, a Gripper. Her mother was a Cutbush.

I would like to share these documents with any members who have a particular interest in the Cutbush property portfolio, and in exchange maybe I will get some help in filling in any gaps on the Flood-Cutbush-Gripper tree. So here goes:

1.Deed of Gift dated 25th December 1810 to Tom Flood Cutbush of one fourth part of the freehold in Star Court, Nightingale Lane, Middlesex, signed by his grandfather, Luke Flood. I understand St.Katherine's Docks now stands in this location.

2. Extract of Last Will and Testament of Thomas Hoskins Cutbush dated 31st July 1823 and Grant of Probate to his wife Clarissa.

3. Admission of Luke Flood to Stepney Manor. This relates to the tenement nearby the house known as the King's Arms on the north side of Whitechapel Street. Dated 1781.

3. Probate of Edward Cutbush dated 17th June 1820

4. Counterpart Lease dated 5th September 1838 between Tom Flood Cutbush and Ebenezer Gosbell. Relating to 30 Whitechapel Road.

5. Assignment of leasehold properties dated 1767; this a large two page parchment and is difficult to decipher, but I think relates St. Bartholomew's in Rochester.

If these documents arouse anyone's interest, please let me know.

[Gloria]

No worries, Gloria, I was actually reading up on the South African side of your family when you turned up here; and you are most welcome here.
You may not know that it is my belief that Thomas Cutbush's father - Thomas Taylor Cutbush - ended up in South Africa, after leaving Fiji, and may well have died there... and I believe that he was visiting members of your family there. He often ended up in places around the world where he had a strong family connection to the Floods, Mears and even the Stoddarts.
I'd be very interested to know if there is any family connection you are able to make to the Whitechapel Bell Foundry or any of the properties owned by the Flood-Cutbush clan around the foundry?
I don't know how much you know about Debra's, Robert's and my own research into your family, but it is certainly an interesting diversion to look into the family links to Fiji where one finds the Cutbush clan linked to the Swann family - who now virtually run and rule Fiji - through the Taylor family - who own a bell foundry in England.
Prepare for the journey of a lifetime.

Hi Ap or Cap'n Jack! I have found my connections to the Mears that you were asking about in your PM. MATILDA CATHERINE MEARS b 1807 d 1829
married LUKE FLOOD CUTBUSH to whom I am a half 2nd great grand niece.
SARAH MEARS (no dates) married JOSEPH KINGSMILL to whom I am a 3rd cousin 3 x removed. Another SARAH MEARS b 1760 married THOMAS KINGSMILL to whom I am a 2nd cousin 4 x removed.
I can't find THOMAS TAYLOR CUTBUSH in Fiji, but I have found a THOMAS WATSON CUTBUSH of the Fiji Platoon of Kings Royal Rifles. Neither can I find TTC in South Africa, but then you know how difficult it is to access information there. As for the STODDARTS, this is all I could find on AGNES INGLES STODDART: Witness to her marriage George Sample and John C. Stoddart (Hopper Street Printer) married by Rev. John Hall. She was only 18 years old.
She is buried with Christina Stoddart who died on 27th March 1892. Grave now sits under the main Wellington Highway. Before being dismantled was in Sydney Street Cemetry
Stoddarts owned great estates in Kent, mostly the Maidstone region, and one James Stoddart specified in his will that no Catholic should inherit one bit of his property. UNQUOTE
Of course I am sure you know the Cutbush clockmakers were from Kent as well.

Yep, you, Debs and Robert have done a whole shed load of work on my family for which I am very grateful.
Gloria

[Cap'n Jack]

You gotta have a lot of time for this one, Gloria, as it comes up on something like the 64th page of returns; but if you use Google books or images it might come up sooner.
I know I found it, but then the horrors of the drink came upon me.