the key

[Wickerman]

Ok Fisherman. What Barnett actually said was, "When I left her she was lying on the bed quite happy although she wasn't saying much."

Aha! ..... in other words he left her on the bed, smiling,... from ear to ear!

Is that an admission of guilt, or what!

Jon

[Fisherman]

Just the one. I mean, can we actually be REALLY, REALLY sure that ... you know ...?

Oh, awright, then. Sorry.

The best,
Fisherman

[GregBaron]

It's over...

Hi all,

Heinrich Maneuver will accept nothing less than full capitulation. We must declare Barnett the fiend and close the case. Casebook must be shut down; we all then must go home and get lives.....Any questions?


Greg

[Robert]

Ok Fisherman. What Barnett actually said was, "When I left her she was lying on the bed quite happy although she wasn't saying much."

[Fisherman]

Robert:

"He admitted nothing of the kind."

Come on, Robert - cut the man some slack!

the best,
Fisherman

[Robert]

Let's get this sorted out now.

"Joseph Barnett admits to being the last person seen in Mary Kelly company on the night of her murder."

He admitted nothing of the kind.

[Heinrich]

Oh ?
I thought that Blotchy was definitely the last man known to have been in her company?
Hutchinson says that he spoke to her..he might or might not have done.
Astrakhan Man -were he to have existed- would be the candidate for 'last person' seen in her company on the night of her death.

I'm not even counting the 'market trader' mooted as a suspect
by people like Richard who believe that she died the next morning.

None of these admit to being the last person seen with Mary Kelly on the night of her murder, Rubyretro.

You come over over to me as someone far more judgemental and inflexible -dare I say "controlling" ?- than Joe Barnett.

I judge the evidence, Rubyretro, and I am not averse to coming to a logical conclusion. I cannot, nor would I attempt to, control anyone else who choses not to be persuaded by the evidence alone.

You don't seem to have much empathy when considering the lives of these real -if long dead- human beings.

I have nothing but sympathy for poor Mary Kelly as all my posts show.

And no sense of humour.

Forgive me for not joining-in with the adolescent banter but, in fairness, I think my remark about you becoming a novelist is not without wit.

I mention "controlling" because you seem to object to Joe having any 'right' to tell Mary what he wanted from their relationship, and no rights to part on amicable terms.

Joseph Barnett was in the habit of telling Mary Kelly what she should not be doing which is a definition of a controlling personality. Neither do I believe they parted on amicable terms no more than Joseph Barnett's characterization of their rows always ending on such good terms.

Since I disagree with you, I'd be quite worried about you if I thought that you lived around the corner from me...

Surely you would not want to do me harm because we differ on the evidence against Joseph Barnett

I've thought this for some time now, myself.
And you're wasting your energy trying to have this discussion with him – He just digs his heels in deeper.

Stop thinking about me, Curious.

I think what Heinrich means is, Barnett admits to being the last murderer seen with Kelly on the night of her murder.
Things look pretty black for Barnett!

Quite so, Robert.

Nonsense alert! http://jtrslondon.wordpress.com/2009...iller-or-both/

This is a brilliant piece of writing and well worth anyone's attention, The Good Michael.

[The Grave Maurice]

And he had friends with political influence, like Andrew Lloyd George.

[Robert]

Ah but Sally, Macavity, unlike Barnett, was finally caught - by T.S. Eliot Ness, if memory serves.

[The Good Michael]

Nonsense alert! http://jtrslondon.wordpress.com/2009...iller-or-both/

[Sally]

Barnett, the Napoleon of crime

I thought that was Macavity. Barnett the Mystery Cat?

[The Good Michael]

You are probably right then, Robert - Hutch the mad serial killer canīt match that.

Uh, that was Hutch the CEREAL killer. Two boxes of Frosted Flakes every day and a bowl of Cap'n Crunch as a bedtime snack. His only crime was he became too regular after so much roughage.

Mike

[Fisherman]

Joe M Barnett? As in Joe Moriarty...?

You are probably right then, Robert - Hutch the mad serial killer canīt match that.

Fisherman
in awe

[Robert]

Fisherman, Heinrich isn't going to go for Hutchinson when he has Barnett, the Napoleon of crime, the organizer of half that is evil and nearly all that is undetected in London.

[Fisherman]

Robert:

"Things look pretty black for Barnett!"

Every cloud has a silver lining, Robert - Heinrich COULD have opted for Hutchinson too ... Brrrrr!!!!!!!!!

The best,
Fisherman