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  • #61
    Originally posted by DJA View Post
    British Museum Library.

    Is that an assumption, a supposition, or a fact?

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    • #62
      it's a fact jack - Google Search
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      • #63
        In addition to appearing in the Bible, the spelling of the word "Jews" as "Juwes" pops up in English Literature too, such as in the famous 14th C. work 'Piers Ploughman'. 'Piers Ploughman' is considered to be one of the great works of early English Literature. It has been published and re-published for over 600 years, including in the 19th Century.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by DJA View Post
          I surmise The Geneva Bible still used Juwes.

          The word Jews, as spelled in the Geneva Bible, does not contain the letter u.

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          • #65
            Which edition ?
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            • #66
              How about "The Shoemaker's Holiday"?
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              • #67
                Originally posted by DJA View Post
                In addition to appearing in the Bible, the spelling of the word "Jews" as "Juwes" pops up in English Literature too, such as in the famous 14th C. work 'Piers Ploughman'. 'Piers Ploughman' is considered to be one of the great works of early English Literature. It has been published and re-published for over 600 years, including in the 19th Century.

                That is not true.

                The word Jews appears as Jews in 3:302, 3:327, 5:238, 9:80, 9:85, 9:88, 10:35, 10:346, 11:120, 12:73, 12:78, 12:89, 12:91, 12:275, 13:210, 14:389, 14:500, 15:581, 15:594, 15:604, 15:606, 16:120, 167:128, 16:138, 16:147, 16:154, 167:162, 18:17, 18:27, 18:38, 18:41, 18:82, 18:92, 18:110, 18:257, 18:301, 19:10, 19:15, 19:31, 19:34, 19:44, 19:48, 19:139, 19:140, 19:154, 19:426.

                The word Jew appears in 9:82, 10:128, 11:246, 12:42, 15:264.

                The word Jewish appears in 1:67, 15:583.

                There is not a single instance of Jews being spelled as Juwes.

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                • #68
                  Piers Ploughman I
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                  • #69
                    I refer to # 67.

                    If you cannot dispute the information contained in it, including 46 references to the spelling of Jews as Jews in a work in which you claim the same word was spelled as Juwes, will you please have the courtesy to concede that you are mistaken.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1 View Post
                      I refer to # 67.

                      If you cannot dispute the information contained in it, including 46 references to the spelling of Jews as Jews in a work in which you claim the same word was spelled as Juwes, will you please have the courtesy to concede that you are mistaken.
                      If you had read the introduction in the link posted in #68,you would find that there were many differences in various printings.

                      My source,as quoted,is impeccable.

                      My preferences lay with quality rather than quantity.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by DJA View Post

                        If you had read the introduction in the link posted in #68,you would find that there were many differences in various printings.

                        My source,as quoted,is impeccable.

                        My preferences lay with quality rather than quantity.

                        Your source spells Jew as Jew and Jews as Jewe​s.

                        Where is the evidence that your source spells Jews as Juwes?

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by DJA View Post
                          Simply put, the word "Juwe" and "Juwes" existed prior to the use of the word "Jew".

                          Ergo, the word "Juwes" existed as the term for those referred to in historical documentation as "Jews" long long ago...and surprising, during 1888 and even TODAY! It exists in the British Museum Library (just down the road from Whitechapel) and the Bodlian Library, Oxford (just up the road from Whitechapel), in fact, up and down, and in me Laydis Chamber.

                          Who would know of this term "Juwes", in 1888? I ASSUME scholars of the ilk of Warren, Anderson, and of course, the Chief Rabbi.
                          Hic Rhodus hic saltus!​



                          You have not provided a single quotation to back up what you claim.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by DJA View Post
                            In addition to appearing in the Bible, the spelling of the word "Jews" as "Juwes" pops up in English Literature too, such as in the famous 14th C. work 'Piers Ploughman'. 'Piers Ploughman' is considered to be one of the great works of early English Literature. It has been published and re-published for over 600 years, including in the 19th Century.

                            You have not provided a single quotation from English literature to substantiate your assertion.

                            You have not provided a single quotation from Piers Ploughman that includes the word Juwes.

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                            • #74
                              Apologies if this has been brought up before, but the French word for Jewish women [ plural ], is [ I believe ] , JUIVES. Which could have possibly been mistaken or written like it said JUWES , if the I was connected to the V .

                              Regards Darryl

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Darryl Kenyon View Post
                                Apologies if this has been brought up before, but the French word for Jewish women [ plural ], is [ I believe ] , JUIVES. Which could have possibly been mistaken or written like it said JUWES , if the I was connected to the V .

                                Regards Darryl
                                i beleive that was Donstons theory.
                                "Is all that we see or seem
                                but a dream within a dream?"

                                -Edgar Allan Poe


                                "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                                quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                                -Frederick G. Abberline

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