The Goulston Street Juwes

[Trevor Marriott]

Why would anyone write a message accusing jurors without mentioning the case on which they deliberated?

If the target of the message was jurors, why write it at the entrance of a building occupied by Jews rather than jurors?

Why do people write graffiti per see?

The addresses of jurors are not disclosed in a court

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[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

I get that, and agree. So, do you feel person responsible for depositing the Pinchin torso wrote "Lipski" on the paling nearby? There was also writing in chalk found near to the Pinchin torso, IIRC in Frederick Street, that stated "John Cleary is a fool"

People who disagree that the murderer wrote the GSG argue that it was already there,

Halse said it looked fresh.

It appears that no-one had seen it prior to Eddowes' murder.

Similarly, no-one apparently had seen the Pinchin Street Graffito prior to the finding of the torso there.

My point is that the evidence is that the graffiti were not already there.

[Abby Normal]

I get that, and agree. So, do you feel person responsible for depositing the Pinchin torso wrote "Lipski" on the paling nearby? There was also writing in chalk found near to the Pinchin torso, IIRC in Frederick Street, that stated "John Cleary is a fool"

again Jerry your attention to detail, knowledge of the cases and knowing the right questions to ask is bar none. to me disparaging jewish grafitti found at both sites links them to the same killer.

[Abby Normal]

The murderer's choice of words look to me more like those of a German than of an Englishman.

what!?!? that makes no sense.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Pardon ?? I thought it was written in English not German . How does it make sense that it was more likely to be written by a German ?

The murderer's choice of words look to me more like those of a German than of an Englishman.

[Darryl Kenyon]

Most of the words in the GSG were Germanic and would have been familiar to a German:

The = der
Juwes = Juden
men = Männer / Menschen
that = das
will = will
not = nicht
thing = ding


The message actually makes more sense if it were written by a German than an Englishman.

Pardon ?? I thought it was written in English not German . How does it make sense that it was more likely to be written by a German ?

[jerryd]

Anti-Jewish graffiti appearing in proximity to a body or bloody clothing from a body, about the same time as the body or apron were deposited there.

I get that, and agree. So, do you feel person responsible for depositing the Pinchin torso wrote "Lipski" on the paling nearby? There was also writing in chalk found near to the Pinchin torso, IIRC in Frederick Street, that stated "John Cleary is a fool"

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Ok. You started out your post with this statement: "I am sure the GSG was written by the murderer because..."

Then you included the "Lipski" chalking in Pinchin Street. How does that relate to your thinking the murderer of Eddowes wrote the GSG?

Anti-Jewish graffiti appearing in proximity to a body or bloody clothing from a body, about the same time as the body or apron were deposited there.

[DJA]

You're pitching it too high, mate. For this place, clearly, you have to go lower..

M.

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[jerryd]

I do not.

What I am getting at is that it seems that in neither case was there any evidence that the graffiti existed prior to the time that the apron or body was found.

Ok. You started out your post with this statement: "I am sure the GSG was written by the murderer because..."

Then you included the "Lipski" chalking in Pinchin Street. How does that relate to your thinking the murderer of Eddowes wrote the GSG?

[Mark J D]

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You're pitching it too high, mate. For this place, clearly, you have to go lower...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhP7T3n6DAU

M.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

I also dont think the killer wrote it either so if that be the case there has to be an explanation for the graffiti and its meaning. The graffiti cannot be connected to any of the murders past or present

I have postulated a plausible explanation previously and that is based on the fact that the writer wrote the words juwes intending to write the words jurors and he wrote the word juwes how he believed the word jurors how it is pronounced but got the spelling wrong

This is based on the fact that all juries in criminal trials in 1888 were made up of men so the wording of the graffiti makes perfect sense to this plausible explanation

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Why would anyone write a message accusing jurors without mentioning the case on which they deliberated?

If the target of the message was jurors, why write it at the entrance of a building occupied by Jews rather than jurors?

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Hi PI.

The "Lipski " written in Pinchin Street was reported on September 14th, 1889 in article you quoted, and was reported during the torso find in that street. Not sure what you are getting at here? Do you believe the two series are connected?

I do not.

What I am getting at is that it seems that in neither case was there any evidence that the graffiti existed prior to the time that the apron or body was found.

[Trevor Marriott]

fear of rotis, fear of rotas?

Whatever it is, Trevor is talking rubbish as usual.

Take the blinkers off. The words JUWES said in one breath can be compared to Jurors

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[jerryd]

Hi PI.

The "Lipski " written in Pinchin Street was reported on September 14th, 1889 in article you quoted, and was reported during the torso find in that street. Not sure what you are getting at here? Do you believe the two series are connected?