The broken window

[packers stem]

It might be helpful, packers, if you can flag the posts in which you write 'obvious nonsense' because otherwise I don't know if the ones I am replying to - such as your latest - also contain obvious nonsense.

But if the idea that a gynaecologist might have been required at Miller's Court is nonsense then have you wondered why Simon Wood is so reluctant to admit that Dr Gabe was a gynaecologist?

It's OK David, there is no obvious nonsense in my later post,unlike many in this thread.I made a simple error of judgement initially.... I corrected my error, the body in 13 millers court was clearly not in need of a gynaecologist

[Howard Brown]

Hi, so is the consensus that his name was surely cater and not carter?
-Rocky-

As far as I know, yes, it was Cater.

[David Orsam]

True,it was an off the cuff thought when it was first mentioned but it took only a little serious thought to realise it's an obvious nonsense.

It might be helpful, packers, if you can flag the posts in which you write 'obvious nonsense' because otherwise I don't know if the ones I am replying to - such as your latest - also contain obvious nonsense.

But if the idea that a gynaecologist might have been required at Miller's Court is nonsense then have you wondered why Simon Wood is so reluctant to admit that Dr Gabe was a gynaecologist?

[packers stem]

Yet in post #251 you said:

"In all liklihood then ,they were checking for signs of pregnancy if there was no child there"

You seem to be arguing with yourself!

True,it was an off the cuff thought when it was first mentioned but it took only a little serious thought to realise it's an obvious nonsense. But it's at least given you the opportunity to work your way back through hundreds of posts...

[David Orsam]

Hi David
From what we know of the remains, I just can't see why a gynaecologist would be required.
There was nothing remaining requiring the expertise of one

Yet in post #251 you said:

"In all liklihood then ,they were checking for signs of pregnancy if there was no child there"

You seem to be arguing with yourself!

[RockySullivan]

"I've just rechecked my info. Over at the JTRF Howard and Monty had a conversation some time ago about Frank Cater being misprinted in Monty's book as Frank Carter, a mistake I repeated in my post. It was apparently a typo which occurred in the first edition.

The conversation, which was about the flyer found in Kate's possession after her death, continued in another thread there.

I hope Howard won't mind me paraphrasing what he said, but he wrote that a descendant of Cater's, who was apparently a grocer, Howard said, ( I've read elsewhere a cheesemonger) had contacted him in pursuit of more info on his grocer ancestor whose name had appeared on the flyer found with Eddowes. Tom Wescott in the same conversation said he was at one time going to write an article about Frank, who apparently lived with his brother."
Rosella



Dear Rosella:
Sorry to say, the relative of Frank Cater never got back to me. If I recall, his first name was David.

Hi, so is the consensus that his name was surely cater and not carter?

[packers stem]

But I don't believe I am wrong Simon. It is patently obvious that a fellow of the British Gynaecological Society could properly be described as a gynaecologist.

That alone could explain Dr Gabe's presence at Miller's Court on 9 November 1888.

Hi David
From what we know of the remains, I just can't see why a gynaecologist would be required.
There was nothing remaining requiring the expertise of one

[Howard Brown]

"I've just rechecked my info. Over at the JTRF Howard and Monty had a conversation some time ago about Frank Cater being misprinted in Monty's book as Frank Carter, a mistake I repeated in my post. It was apparently a typo which occurred in the first edition.

The conversation, which was about the flyer found in Kate's possession after her death, continued in another thread there.

I hope Howard won't mind me paraphrasing what he said, but he wrote that a descendant of Cater's, who was apparently a grocer, Howard said, ( I've read elsewhere a cheesemonger) had contacted him in pursuit of more info on his grocer ancestor whose name had appeared on the flyer found with Eddowes. Tom Wescott in the same conversation said he was at one time going to write an article about Frank, who apparently lived with his brother."
Rosella

Dear Rosella:
Sorry to say, the relative of Frank Cater never got back to me. If I recall, his first name was David.

[David Orsam]

I'm certain you can find out for yourself.

But I don't believe I am wrong Simon. It is patently obvious that a fellow of the British Gynaecological Society could properly be described as a gynaecologist.

That alone could explain Dr Gabe's presence at Miller's Court on 9 November 1888.

[Simon Wood]

Hi David,

I'm certain you can find out for yourself.

Regards,

Simon

[David Orsam]

Hi David,

Yes, you have made a clear statement.

And it's loud, confident and wrong.

Would you care to explain why?

[Simon Wood]

Hi David,

Yes, you have made a clear statement.

And it's loud, confident and wrong.

Regards,

Simon

[David Orsam]

You haven't said anything yet.

Yes I have. I've said that Dr Gabe, a fellow of the British Society of Gynaecologists, was (of course) a gynaecologist.

If that isn't a clear statement I honestly don't know how I can put it more clearly for you.

[David Orsam]

A mere typo becomes a capital crime to you.

In what way did you think I was suggesting it was a capital crime or even a criticism of you? It was a statement of fact which actually contained a typo itself because the correct name is Ornella Moscucci.

[curious4]

Don't know if this link is still viable:

Bob Hinton posted photos of a period spring lock here:

http://www.casebook.org/forum/messages/4921/6718.html

He has even more photos that he took, and even made a mock up, which he filmed.

Best wishes
C4

Yes, still there but you have to scroll down to get to the pictures