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  • Phil Carter
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    Interesting old Casebook page about the whereabouts of J.R.Gabe in the censuses..etc..



    In 1889-1892 he is listed as a doctor and medical officer for the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children.


    Herewith part of Don Souden's dissertation on Casebook.

    "One of those sources of information was Dr. J. R. Gabe of Mecklenburgh Square, whose name appears in early stories about the murder as one of the physicians immediately called to Miller's Court. The November 10, 1888, Daily Telegraph account included: "Dr. J. R. Gabe, who viewed the body, said he had seen a great deal in dissecting rooms, but he had never witnessed such a horrible sight as the murdered woman presented." The first reports of the murder scene in other newspapers were also clearly provided by Gabe, and his comments colored press coverage globally. The details were often graphic. The New York Herald quoted him saying, in part: "Below the neck the trunk suggested a sheep's carcass in a slaughter house." "


    Herewith more of the man.

    JOHN REES GABE, Deceased.


    Pursuant to the Law of Property Amendment Act, 1859.


    NOTICE is hereby given, that all creditors and other persons having any claims or demands against the estate of John Rees Gabe, late of 4, formerly 3, Mecklenburgh-square, London, W.C., Physician and Surgeon, deceased, (who died on the 2nd day of March, 1920, and whose will was proved in the Principal Registry of the Probate Division of His Majesty’s High Court of Justice, on the 7th day of July, 1920, by Ivor Stanley Gabe and Winifred Agnes Gabe, the executors therein named), are hereby required to send the particulars, in writing, of their claims or demands to me, the undersigned, as Solicitor for the said executors, on or before the 27th day of August, 1920, after which date the said executors will proceed to distribute the assets of the said deceased amongst the persons entitled thereto, having regard only to the debts, claims and demands of which he shall then have had notice; and he will not be liable for the assets of the said deceased, or any part thereof, so distributed, to any person or persons of whose claims or demands he shall not then have had notice. – Dated this 27th day of July, 1920.



    JOHN J. McINTYRE, 401/3, Birkbeck-chambers, Holborn, W.C.I, Solicitor for the said Executors.






    Phil
    Last edited by Phil Carter; 10-14-2015, 04:48 AM.

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  • Jon Guy
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    Originally posted by Jon Guy View Post
    Yes.

    Which bit don`t you understand ?
    Hello again Pierre

    This is the sort of thing I had in mind, perhaps you can help ?

    Dr JR Gabe is listed as a gynaecologist and paediatrician in the Jack The Ripper A-Z. Does anyone have a copy to hand to see if a source is given ?

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  • Jon Guy
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    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    "Valuable research"?
    Yes.

    Which bit don`t you understand ?

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    Hi David,

    I'll be sure to let you know the next time somebody does.

    Regards,

    Simon
    Oh someone just did Simon...again. And once again your true colors come shining through.

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    Hi David,

    I'll be sure to let you know the next time somebody does.
    No, don't bother.

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi David,

    I'll be sure to let you know the next time somebody does.

    Regards,

    Simon

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    No personal abuse, I assure you.

    Merely a statement of fact.
    Well that continues to be personal abuse Simon.

    You clearly don't like it when someone stands up to you do you?

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi David,

    No personal abuse, I assure you.

    Merely a statement of fact.

    Regards,

    Simon

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post

    Stop being a dick.
    And there we have it. The key question unanswered and you resort to personal abuse.

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post


    Regarding Dr. Dukes, he would have peeped through the window like everyone else, for there was no access to the room until 1.30 pm.
    Your posts are getting rather bizarre now Simon.

    One thing that is certain: all the doctors went into the room after 1.30pm.

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi David,

    Stop being a dick.

    Regards,

    Simon

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    Now, David, regarding Dr. Gabe. If you were a doctor called to attend to a six or seven year old boy in Millers Court, wouldn't you have wanted to see the cause of the little chap's plight for yourself?
    And leave the poor boy where exactly?

    As it happens, I would have thought that, having been called specifically to attend to a little boy, my sole priority would be the little boy's welfare, him being my patient, and what business would I have had satisfying my curiosity to look inside the murder scene?

    But I'm happy with your answer Simon because essentially you have admitted that if Dr Gabe had been in the vicinity of Dorset Street for whatever reason that afternoon he was at liberty to satisfy his curiosity by wandering into number 26 Millers Court.

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi David,

    Evidently, it does for you.

    Perhaps if you were smart rather than clever we might get somewhere.

    Regarding Dr. Dukes, he would have peeped through the window like everyone else, for there was no access to the room until 1.30 pm.

    Regards,

    Simon

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post

    And don't forget, Dr. Dukes could not have got into the room.
    I don't know what this means. If he saw the victim then he obviously did get into the room.

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    Hi David,

    Yes, it sure is a puzzler, ain't it?

    Perhaps Dr. Phillips was attending to someone else when the call went out.
    I don't know what this means but if you are entering the world of 'perhaps' then perhaps Dr Gabe was attending to someone in the local vicinity when the call went out, or perhaps he was visiting his old surgery around the corner, or perhaps he was attending at the London Hospital, or perhaps he was meeting up with one of the other doctors and came along. The world of 'perhaps' has many possibilities.

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