Broad Shoulders, Elizabeth's Killer ?

[Sunny Delight]

There isn't anything that is indisputable, but then again, I'm obviously not a serious student of the case.

Apologies for that, it should have said other serious students of the case. I did not mean to be derogatory as I know you have spent many years trying to piece things together.

I just think you are badly misguided when it comes to Packer and I think the Police had it right from the beginning with him.

[The Rookie Detective]

The couple seen by Marshall walked down Berner St. - "They went away down the street, towards Ellen-street."
This sighting was between 11:30 - 12:00, but Stride was at the Bricklayers Arms in Settles St. about 11:00 pm.

Jon, did the couple seen by Marshall take the same route that Schwartz ran when he fled from the scene of the assault?

Am I correct when I say.that Schwartz stated 22 Ellen Street as an address?

[Wickerman]

Apologies for that, it should have said other serious students of the case. I did not mean to be derogatory as I know you have spent many years trying to piece things together.

I just think you are badly misguided when it comes to Packer and I think the Police had it right from the beginning with him.

Oh heck no, I was only teasing, no need to apologize.
I often take a contrary view if I think we are throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
I think this is one of those cases, certainly Packer was confused but we know his 11:00-11:30 was wrong, Stride was seen elsewhere at 11:00 pm, which means the 11:45-12:30 window must have been the correct version, which matches up with P.C. Smith's statement.

It can't be dismissed that Packer handing a package to a man who was with Stride, who stood in the street about 12:30, is confirmed by P.C. Smith who also saw a man accompanying Stride, carrying a package, about 12:30.
Which means something of what Packer say's is true.

The description Packer gave of Parcel-man is different enough to what P.C. Smith said to show he was not trying to copy Smith's statement. If that is all it was then obviously Packer would have repeated Smith's published description, which he didn't.
I think Packer was trying to be honest.

I feel there's too many theories in this case that involve 'plotting' or conspiracy. Packer was just a poor witness who tried to resist getting involved at first. Nothing what he told Sgt. White was untrue, he really did not see anyone go up the yard, and he had not seen anything suspicious. All he saw were various people moving around the street, there's nothing suspicious about that.