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  • #61
    I have seen old photos of eastern european people with very smart coats trimmed with Astrakhan, so the coat might have swayed Hutchinson?
    Pat...............................

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Fleetwood Mac View Post
      Hello GUT, well of all the ex-colonies, and I hope you people know your place, still, after all this time; and this includes all of you, even the people who were never colonies, such as the French; who need to know their place, the Aussies are most like us in outlook.

      But, I can only make this point. I'm sat here in what could only possibly be considered to be an English style of dress. The only other people who could possibly dress like this are the Welsh and definitely not our Jock friends from north of the border.

      I'm sat in a pair of cords, a set of black brogue shoes, a jumper made in the US (Gant), and a Barbour coat hanging on the door. Now, imagine that look: would an Australian or an American really dress like that? It's a monumental no from all four corners of the earth. The English have a long history of taking other people's ideas and melding them into our own view of life. We do this very well, whether it's music or clothes or anything.

      Now, I dress like an Englishman, and I walk like an Englishman - we think we own the earth. Moreover, you could pin me down to the North of England by style of dress because a Londoner would wear a suit jacket with a pair of brogues - not a Barbour coat.

      And, the really observant could easily pin me down to the North East of England, because other parts of the North tend not to be so formal - it's a product of our mining culture.

      Also, you could easily pin me down as a Working Class North Easterner who has done alright for himself to be able to afford expensive clothes, but doesn't have the hair that the middle class tend to have. Middle Class people in England do not, as a rule, crop their hair, it's beneath them; I've always had my hair cropped.

      And then, for the really observant. You could pin me down to County Durham by my build. I'm 5'9 with broad shoulders - being average height but broad suggests I could be from coal mining stock, which I am, and those who know England's history know that people came all over to work in the mines in County Durham: Jocks, Taffs, Irish etc, but just by the look around my eyes you'd know there's no Irish or Welsh blood in me.

      If you put up a Scotsman and an Englishman in photos, it would be obvious to the observant which one is which just by the look around the eyes.

      Anyone seriously suggesting that you can't tell an Englishman from other nationalities must be on some serious mind bending drugs, and if those people making the suggestions are American then God only knows what they're thinking of because Americans are some of the most easily recognisable people in the world.
      Don't bite fellow posters, observe the admirable way in which GUT dealt with such drivel.

      Good on yer Sport

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      • #63
        Okay. You guys say you can tell? Okay then. Tell.









        So these are all friends of mine. Some of these pictures were taken awhile ago, some more recently. Of everybody in these pictures, coincidentally only three of us are multi ethnic (yes I'm in some of these). Everyone else was either an immigrant or a first generation American. Their blood lines are about as pure as they get.

        Name these ethnicities.
        The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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        • #64
          Hi Errata

          Easy ..the woman in red is German, possibly with distant Greek relatives.

          Of the couple, the black dress is American / Irish, County Kildare.
          The white dress Croatian, one of the coastal fishing villages?

          The group photo, L to R
          German Bavarian
          French Canadian
          Southern Greek
          Irish
          Finnish
          Canadian
          Brazilian

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Errata View Post
            Okay. You guys say you can tell? Okay then. Tell.









            So these are all friends of mine. Some of these pictures were taken awhile ago, some more recently. Of everybody in these pictures, coincidentally only three of us are multi ethnic (yes I'm in some of these). Everyone else was either an immigrant or a first generation American. Their blood lines are about as pure as they get.

            Name these ethnicities.
            Dunno, but one thing I can tell you, Errata, is that the bonny lass in the red is not English, and that's the whole point of the thread. Not: "here are all my mates, which one of them hails from Outer Mongolia".

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Fleetwood Mac View Post
              Dunno, but one thing I can tell you, Errata, is that the bonny lass in the red is not English, and that's the whole point of the thread. Not: "here are all my mates, which one of them hails from Outer Mongolia".
              But, Ill have a guess. She's not British, and definitely not Spanish or French.

              Outside chance of being Italian, but probably not.

              She looks to me to be from Southern Europe on the Eastern side. I'll go Bulgaria...

              Where's me prize? And forget the clock, I want cold hard money.

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              • #67
                G'Day Errata

                I'm guessing that they are all ether immigrants or recent arrivals [ie first or second generation], and isn't that the point no one said the person I saw [Jacky] was X just he was foreign or Jewish.
                G U T

                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                • #68
                  G'Day Fleetwood Mac

                  I'm sat in a pair of cords, a set of black brogue shoes, a jumper made in the US (Gant), and a Barbour coat hanging on the door. Now, imagine that look: would an Australian or an American really dress like that? It's a monumental no from all four corners of the earth. The English have a long history of taking other people's ideas and melding them into our own view of life. We do this very well, whether it's music or clothes or anything.
                  And in dear old Aus you'd stand out as a foreigner every summer dressed like that.
                  G U T

                  There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by GUT View Post
                    G'Day Fleetwood Mac



                    And in dear old Aus you'd stand out as a foreigner every summer dressed like that.
                    Which is the whole point, GUT. I don't want to be Australian, or American, I want to be English; which is why I dress like an Englishman.

                    Most of us are like that, give or take the odd left-wing type who eats a croissant and thinks he/she (usually a she) is French and dresses accordingly.

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                    • #70
                      G'Day Fleetwood

                      But isn't that the point, they would know a foreigner when they saw one in their own backyard.
                      G U T

                      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                      • #71
                        G'Day Observer

                        observe the admirable way in which GUT dealt with such drivel.

                        Good on yer Sport
                        Thanks mate.
                        G U T

                        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Jon Guy View Post
                          Hi Errata

                          The white dress Croatian, one of the coastal fishing villages?
                          She's Slovenian. But, she does have a Croatian GrandMother from Zagreb so an easy mistake to make. She hates dogs and has a cat called Goran. She is also a failed artist.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Fleetwood Mac View Post
                            Dunno, but one thing I can tell you, Errata, is that the bonny lass in the red is not English, and that's the whole point of the thread. Not: "here are all my mates, which one of them hails from Outer Mongolia".
                            First of all, several people said they could spot an Eastern European with no problem. This is their opportunity to prove that claim.

                            Secondly, we have been discussing whether or not there is a Jewish look, there are four Jews in the photos, so people who believe that Jews look a certain way are free to point them out as well.

                            Third, two of them are in fact English, fresh off the boat English so to speak, so I'm sure you guys can pick out your brethren. And none of them are from Outer Mongolia, or even minor countries. In fact, they are all from countries actually discussed in this thread. Well, except one. The woman in the wedding dress is South African. Well, she's American, her parents are South African.

                            The press said "foreign". Not witnesses. So the witnesses were clearly not hedging their bets. The police should have, and that's what I said. Other ethnicities "look Jewish" according to the stereotype. Phenotypes outside of Eastern European. People said they could tell. I'm still waiting.
                            The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Jon Guy View Post
                              Hi Errata

                              Easy ..the woman in red is German, possibly with distant Greek relatives.

                              Of the couple, the black dress is American / Irish, County Kildare.
                              The white dress Croatian, one of the coastal fishing villages?

                              The group photo, L to R
                              German Bavarian
                              French Canadian
                              Southern Greek
                              Irish
                              Finnish
                              Canadian
                              Brazilian

                              I'm a mutt, that's me in the black, and I am third generation American, half Scot, half Russian Jew.
                              The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Fleetwood Mac View Post
                                But, Ill have a guess. She's not British, and definitely not Spanish or French.

                                Outside chance of being Italian, but probably not.

                                She looks to me to be from Southern Europe on the Eastern side. I'll go Bulgaria...

                                Where's me prize? And forget the clock, I want cold hard money.
                                She is a French citizen. She was born there, and came to here from there. But no, she is not any of those things.

                                I would give you money for getting it right, but she's actually super easy. Especially if you know the immigrant demographic of Nashville. Guess the girl in the group photo wearing khakis and a white shirt, and I will absolutely send you 10 bucks.
                                The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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