writing on the wall

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

i have read also the Juwes being changed to James and on documentary with Michael Winner .

"The James are the men who will not be blamed for nothing"

Say it out loud. It's nonsense.

[Wickerman]

Do people generally attempt to remove offending graffiti or do they tend to write a response (usually in the form of a **** you) right next to it?

c.d.

It all depends how old they are, possibly?

[Wickerman]

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Graffiti was common enough but it would have been far less cryptic than this.

It's possible we think it is cryptic because the sentence structure is different compared to how we would write it today.

Who exactly was it for if it was not written by Jack? ....

Any disgruntled local that feels he was cheated by a Jew for whatever reason.

Remember, it wasn't scribbled across a wall in huge letters for the world to see. It was a small cheeky complaint against Jews in general.

The apron was dumped in full view as an attention-getter, yet the graffiti was quite the opposite.
It was so small it had to be looked for. The two are a contradiction to each other.

[Wickerman]

hi
so this means JtR is carrying chalk ?....

Like what, a part-time schoolteacher might do?

Any part-time schoolteacher's on the suspect list?

Oops....

[c.d.]

Do people generally attempt to remove offending graffiti or do they tend to write a response (usually in the form of a **** you) right next to it?

c.d.

[Wickerman]

I believe the police did if fact question the residents about the writing,....

It was the City police who went door-to-door within the tenament, but we don't know what they asked the residents.

The thing that make me think it was the Ripper. is if it had been there previously, surely someone whom might have been offended by it would certainly have removed it, and that no one came forward to say it was there before that night in question.

But that's assuming they even bothered to read it, and why should they if it was so small as was described by Halse.
And, like I said, how many adult Jews could read English anyway?

It's another huge assumption to expect everybody will read any piece of graffiti, every day, every time they pass.
The truth is more likely they couldn't be bothered, to begin with they know from instinct it isn't going to be complimentary, just more ignorant scribble from local lowlife's?

[milchmanuk]

i have read also the Juwes being changed to James and on documentary with Michael Winner .

[milchmanuk]

There is good evidence to suggest it was written specifically using Talc or otherwise called ‘French Chalk’. It was commonly used amongst Tailors (and the rag trade in general) but it was also used in food by unscrupulous vendors to make things whiter - like bread.

Graffiti was common enough but it would have been far less cryptic than this. Who exactly was it for if it was not written by Jack? I do not believe the apron and graffiti to be found together as a coincidence.

some good points there.
i just sharpened my scissors and the thought was there between 5-7 inches and a pointed end,
i read perhaps a doctor claiming a long pointed blade used ,
as was pointed out to us that P C Long had not seen the writing earlier in the evening on his beet i presume.
that from official source wipes clean my theory of a tenant a jewish one saying it,s not us.

[erobitha]

hi
so this means JtR is carrying chalk ? as well as perhaps a couple of blades.
i have wondered if scissors had been considered in cutting garments and such or already dismissed.
i have read of other graffiti written in chalk around the vicinity.
perhaps common then in London.?

There is good evidence to suggest it was written specifically using Talc or otherwise called ‘French Chalk’. It was commonly used amongst Tailors (and the rag trade in general) but it was also used in food by unscrupulous vendors to make things whiter - like bread.

Graffiti was common enough but it would have been far less cryptic than this. Who exactly was it for if it was not written by Jack? I do not believe the apron and graffiti to be found together as a coincidence.

[milchmanuk]

hi fishy
exactly. its clearly a dig at jews, written in a very noticeable spot on a mostly jewish resident building. one of the residents would have surely and easily wiped it off if it had been there any length of time. one of the police said it looked fresh.
Its connected to the apron/murder from that night and PC long said it wasnt there earlier in the night.

it was written by the ripper and never saw the light of day.

hi
so this means JtR is carrying chalk ? as well as perhaps a couple of blades.
i have wondered if scissors had been considered in cutting garments and such or already dismissed.
i have read of other graffiti written in chalk around the vicinity.
perhaps common then in London.?

[Abby Normal]

I believe the police did if fact question the residents about the writing, if indeed they had noticed it before that evening .

The thing that make me think it was the Ripper. is if it had been there previously, surely someone whom might have been offended by it would certainly have removed it, and that no one came forward to say it was there before that night in question.
Then there's the Apron.

hi fishy
exactly. its clearly a dig at jews, written in a very noticeable spot on a mostly jewish resident building. one of the residents would have surely and easily wiped it off if it had been there any length of time. one of the police said it looked fresh.
Its connected to the apron/murder from that night and PC long said it wasnt there earlier in the night.

it was written by the ripper and never saw the light of day.

[c.d.]

I guess the question is whether we are interpreting the message simply as it is written or are we interpreting it in light of its connection to the apron?

By itself, a pro-Jewish interpretation is certainly reasonable - The Jews are tired of being blamed for things we didn't do.

c.d.

[Wickerman]

It's as well to point out that not all Jews could read and write in English.

Typically, first generation immigrants only use their natural language, some will learn a few phrases of English sufficient to get by, but the younger Jewish kids who attend school are the most likely to learn to read and write in English.
Others may forget the troubles, the pogroms & massacre's the Jews had endured across Europe, why would they even care about some local mindless graffiti, they have tolerated much worse.

[FISHY1118]

If the police at the time had asked each of the residents “have you noticed any chalked writing in the doorway” surely this would have solved the problem of whether the killer wrote it or not? I can only assume that the police just assumed that it was written by the ripper so I wonder if they did ask the question and that every resident said that they hadn’t previously seen any writing?

I believe the police did if fact question the residents about the writing, if indeed they had noticed it before that evening .

The thing that make me think it was the Ripper. is if it had been there previously, surely someone whom might have been offended by it would certainly have removed it, and that no one came forward to say it was there before that night in question.
Then there's the Apron.

[Herlock Sholmes]

If the police at the time had asked each of the residents “have you noticed any chalked writing in the doorway” surely this would have solved the problem of whether the killer wrote it or not? I can only assume that the police just assumed that it was written by the ripper so I wonder if they did ask the question and that every resident said that they hadn’t previously seen any writing?