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  • Rb

    Your pic is a close up and appears almost identical to the more distant image in my photo. Thanks for that.

    I guess the ground must have changed entirely from August 1888, especially in 1920.

    Phil

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    • If I remember correctly there was a restaurant/cafe on the site in the 20s up to 1940/41? I just had a look at my Goads for 1923 and it's not on there, but it looks like it is there in Leonard Matters photo which is around 1926ish. So I presume the first sort of changes were made around then.

      Rob

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      • Wasn't the westernmost house in Buck's Row/Durward st ("something cottage"?) damaged in the Blitz c 1941? I seem to recall it was demolished as a result.

        I suppose that may have necessitated the resetting of the paving if it had been affected by the blast.

        Phil

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        • Yes, New Cottage and at least 2 other houses next to it. About three houses altogether I believe. And the same amount in Winthrop Street, the ones that backed onto Durward Street.

          Rob

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          • Phil
            I couldn't help noticing the location of the street lights in your picture.
            One was more or less opposite the murder scene (outsided Essex Wharf) and one a bit further down, probably outside where Schneider's used to be...

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            • I could have told you that Ed.

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              The one next to Essex Wharf wasn't there in the 1930s.

              Rob

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              • Hello All .

                Great photo's Rob & Phil . There are not to many close-ups of the Nichols murder site .. I took one myself around the mid 80's , but Robs photo manages to retain that Erie and atmospheric gloom surrounding both the Nichol's murder site and the Essex Wharf building . Excellent upload .

                Regarding Phil's photo from the North side of the street shot from behind the bollard .. Would the bollard ( or whatever its called ) be from 1888 or a much later time ?

                cheers .

                moonbegger

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                • I have gone through all my collected pictures of Buck's Row/Durward St and still cannot answer your question. I get the impression they were there in the 50s - maybe even in the 20s when Leonard Matters took pictures, but whether they were there in 1888 I do not know.

                  Given the wharehouses along one side of the narrow street, I suppose they might have been - to keep wagons and later lorries away from the walls/pavement.

                  Maybe one of our very knowledgable compatriots on Casebook can provide a better answer.

                  Phil

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                  • Hello Phil ,

                    thanks for checking all the same . Do you remember when you took the pic , if you was standing in the entrance to the old wool warehouse ?

                    On checking the CSI book .. I see they have two sitting either side of the Wool warehouse entrance , at roughly the same position your photo was taken . But I suppose they could have been replaced a few times since then.

                    cheers

                    moonbegger .

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                    • Something I clocked on the BBC News website this morn.

                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21199782

                      Monty
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                      Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                      http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                      • Winsor

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                        "It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins twisting facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts." Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (as Sherlock Holmes).

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                        • Hello everyone! Been a long time, Im still obsessed, but just dont have a good internet connection these days - i.e I dont have one!

                          Anyway - was walking to The Blind Beggar one day last week and was happy to find Woods Buildings gate was open! Never been in, so in I went! Sadly only had my mobile with me, so quality here isnt great but here is a video and two stills from that. I have good video from the graves of the girls Ive visited too but still dont have time to upload them (Im in an internet cafe right now!).

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VvY1h08VZ4
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                          • 1927 Color Film of London w/Petticoat Lane, Parks, Traffic, Cricket, etc.

                            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...war-glory.html

                            The clarity and detail are surprisingly good, but I love how dream-like it is.

                            Enjoy!
                            Archaic

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                            • Might not be London, but what wonderful music :



                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQV1_B63LTM

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                              • Superbe

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