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  • Originally posted by Chris View Post
    It's been pointed out to you three times now that this is not true. At Colney Hatch the diagnosis was "Mania"; at Leavesden it was "Dementia Secondary".
    How long was Aaron Kosminski in Colney Hatch?Three years 1891-1894.
    How long was he at Leavesdon? 1894-1919 ?

    Twenty -five years.The clear record is "Dementia" from 19th April 1894- 1919

    Touche

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    • Norma

      Dementia as we know it today is very unlikely to have been the case in a 22 year old man (though I except not totally impossible). In many ways this is the classic period for psychotic episodes to start. Aaron was suffering some form of Schizophrenia, you're simply gasping at straws now.

      Unfortunately Aaron's records are little more than updates on his physical condition they are not indicators to his mental health or state of mind. Besides this is starting to move off topic and I have noticed that SPE and Begg are discussing Anderson else where, and I'd like to keep up with what they have to say.

      Jeff

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      • Originally posted by Natalie Severn View Post
        How long was Aaron Kosminski in Colney Hatch?Three years 1891-1894.
        How long was he at Leavesdon? 1894-1919 ?

        Twenty -five years.The clear record is "Dementia" from 19th April 1894- 1919

        Touche
        Well, if the idea is that you don't start the clock until the diagnosis was changed, I suppose in that sense you can say "For twenty five years his diagnosis was unchanged" - because we have a record of only a single diagnosis made at Leavesden.

        But the facts remain that the initial diagnosis in 1891 was not "Dementia", but "Mania", and that diagnosis did change, probably three years after that.
        Last edited by Chris; 02-02-2010, 08:57 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
          If Anderson was telling the truth why did so many of his contemporaries disagree with him? Why should Anderson have been the only policeman to know the true facts of the matter?

          Hi Simon

          Perhaps because it was supposed to be a secret.
          allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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          • Hi Stephen,

            Then he wouldn't have said anything to anybody....ever!

            best wishes

            Phil
            Chelsea FC. TRUE BLUE. 💙


            Justice for the 96 = achieved
            Accountability? ....

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            • Hi Stephen,

              I'm certain it was supposed to be a secret, and Anderson pointing a finger at an unnamed Jew/Polish Jew in the interests of his own self-aggrandizement made it stay that way.

              Regards,

              Simon
              Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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              • Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
                Hi Stephen,

                Then he wouldn't have said anything to anybody....ever!

                Hi Phil

                I'm only suggesting that Anderson, with one foot in the grave and feeling a little mischievous, just may have spilled the beans contrary to orders.

                All the best
                allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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                • Hi Stephen,

                  Let's agree that Anderson did spill the beans "contrary to orders". As all his contemporaries disagreed with him, this still leaves him in the unlikely position of being the one and only policeman in full possession of the facts.

                  Regards,

                  Simon
                  Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                  • Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                    Let's agree that Anderson did spill the beans "contrary to orders". As all his contemporaries disagreed with him, this still leaves him in the unlikely position of being the one and only policeman in full possession of the facts.
                    If he spilled the beans, that means all the others lied. The only likely scenario is that Anderson said what he believed. It doesn't make it true, but it also doesn't make him a liar. So where are we? Nowhere.

                    Mike
                    huh?

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                    • "All his contemporaries disagreed with him"... except Swanson. Will you agree with this?

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                      • Originally posted by robhouse View Post
                        "All his contemporaries disagreed with him"... except Swanson. Will you agree with this?
                        With due respect Rob,Swanson and the margin/end paper -nalia area are a bit of a domestic doodle you know.They read for all the world like he was seated by the fire at home, remembering the good old days with dear old Robbie when he started to ponder about who it could possibly be that dear old Robbie was referring to , and as he nodded off----it suddenly came to him ,like dear old Abou Ben Adam"s roll call. ---why Kosminski was his name!

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                        • Natalie,

                          It does not read like that at all. But I have come to realize that you are so biased against Anderson and Swanson, (and Kozminski as a suspect) that nothing... not even the most basic of facts... can penetrate the wall you have put up around your beliefs.

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                          • Hi Rob,

                            I will agree with this the moment the authenticity of the Swanson 'endpaper marginalia' is established beyond all reasonable doubt.

                            Regards,

                            Simon
                            Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                            • Hi Rob

                              Yeah, but as a Hollywood plot line you can just imagine Morgan Freeman with a warm checked blanket around his knee’s, breaking his pencil and exclaiming “does anyone have this in purple?”

                              Jeff

                              PS one step closer.

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                              • Hi Jeff,

                                Not even near.

                                Regards,

                                Simon
                                Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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