Patterns formed by murder locations

[RivkahChaya]

Hello Rivkah. But does this not sound just a bit oracular? The age range, alone, grabs a large segment of the population. How many are NOT in that range?

Cheers.
LC

That's my point.

[lynn cates]

oracular

Hello Rivkah. But does this not sound just a bit oracular? The age range, alone, grabs a large segment of the population. How many are NOT in that range?

Cheers.
LC

[RivkahChaya]

@ RivkahChaya

Spelling your point out makes sense now. No, simply giving profiles is not the job, it involves more than we would want to get into, I imagine.

Well, and like I said, it's from the FBI's website.

But, the TV shows make it look pretty easy.

"He's a white male, 25-40, unemployed, or underemployed...." They give practically the same profile for every serial killer, and the "white" changes only when all the victims are black. The rest is a rehashing of the circumstances. If it were really that easy, there wouldn't be a BAU.

[RavenDarkendale]

@ RivkahChaya

Spelling your point out makes sense now. No, simply giving profiles is not the job, it involves more than we would want to get into, I imagine.

I was thinking of the extras on the first season DVD set, in which the consultant speaks of how heavy the turnover is on the actual BAU, because of the stress of the job. John Douglas, for example, speaks of interviewing at least a hundred serial killers trying to get down points that could be used in forming profiles that might catch future killers.

Friedrich Nietzsche: If you stare into the Abyss long enough the Abyss stares back at you.

All I can say is I'm glad I don't have that job!

God Bless

RD

[RivkahChaya]

Presumably something hatched in the same nest as Daingerfield, the dove who says boo...

All the best

Dave

PS Presumably he arises like a phoenix from the ashes of your three-L Llama?

Actually, it's a big fire in Brooklyn.

They "extoiminate" people in Brooklyn, too, unless I'm really misreading.

[Cogidubnus]

Presumably something hatched in the same nest as Daingerfield, the dove who says boo...

All the best

Dave

PS Presumably he arises like a phoenix from the ashes of your three-L Llama?

[RivkahChaya]

Do they extoiminate people?



All the best

Dave

What's a 3-L llama?

[Cogidubnus]

He takes that show very, very seriously. We do not laugh at Dr. Who. I tried to make fun of the way he pronounces "dalek," because he didn't grow up watching British TV on PBS, and calls them "dialects," but it didn't go over well.

Do they extoiminate people?



All the best

Dave

[RivkahChaya]

Hello Rivkah. Thanks.

"No, I was referring to the show Criminal Minds . . ."

Yes, I know. I was pulling your leg a bit.

"It gets very melodramatic, sometimes."

Hmmm. So does ripperology. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

I know. I just wanted to go on about the show a little more. One major source of, umm, discussion, around the house here, is whether it's a good use of time to watch a TV show just to laugh at the bad science. My husband makes fun of me for watching Criminal Minds, and the CSIs, whose writers don't even understand the infection process, or how blood types are inherited (two parents with type-A blood can, in fact, have an O child), but the show he never misses is Dr. Who, which he insists is somehow more realistic, because it has internal consistency. He takes that show very, very seriously. We do not laugh at Dr. Who. I tried to make fun of the way he pronounces "dalek," because he didn't grow up watching British TV on PBS, and calls them "dialects," but it didn't go over well.

[RivkahChaya]

John Douglas, author of The Cases that Haunt Us, might disagree about the "profiler" business.

I'm quoting directly from the FBI website when I say "there's no such job as 'profiler.'" It's probably in response to the number of inquiries they get from people who want to get hired as "profilers" who don't realize that 1) to work for the BAU, you have to be a regular agent first, satisfy all the regular agent requirements, and agent training, plus, have a certain number of years experience, and a recommendation; 2) people who work for the BAU do a lot besides provide profiles of unidentified criminals; and 3) they don't hire psychics. Putting "psychic" on your resume is a great way not to get hired.

Just because people provide profiles as part of their jobs doesn't mean that's an FBI job title. Profiling is a task, but calling a BAU agent a "profiler" is like calling a medical doctor a "prescriber." Even in just the limited area of investigating unidentified killers, BAU agents do what's called "victimology," a word that gets my mixed derivation knickers in a snit, but nevermind. And like I said, they do a lot of work in counter-terrorism. There's not really a brand new serial killer a week for them to go profile and catch. The US has a high murder rate, but we're not that bad.

[lynn cates]

comparison

Hello Rivkah. Thanks.

"No, I was referring to the show Criminal Minds . . ."

Yes, I know. I was pulling your leg a bit.

"It gets very melodramatic, sometimes."

Hmmm. So does ripperology. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[RavenDarkendale]

It's a grown-up Saturday morning cartoon, with a braniac, a cyborg, a super-guy, wonder woman, computer genius/talking computer. It could be Clue Club, or Superfriends, grown up.


No such job as "profiler." Also, the Behavior Analysis Unit isn't like it is on TV at all (it mostly does counter-terrorism

Ouch! That crack about Saturday Morning Cartoons smarts!

John Douglas, author of The Cases that Haunt Us, might disagree about the "profiler" business. True, the BAU is usually about terrorism, but think how we get amber alerts when a child is missing or fugitives are on the loose. Regarded as "homeland security issues" are they not? Not all terrorists are from other countries, or threaten on a national or global basis. If a serial killer is in my area (which did happen some years ago!) I would be glad to know that every effort is being made to stop him or her, and it would terrorize my area to know that this "terrorist" was lose on our streets!

RD

[RivkahChaya]

Hello Rivkah. Thanks.

"It's a grown-up Saturday morning cartoon, with a braniac, a cyborg, a super-guy, wonder woman, computer genius/talking computer."

Are you referring to modern "Jack the Ripper" investigation here? (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

No, I was referring to the show Criminal Minds, which as I said, I like, but sometimes for the wrong reasons. It gets very melodramatic, sometimes. Sometimes they have guest stars who are really campy (eg, Tim Curry), and I enjoy it, and some of the actors enter into the play, while the others don't, so there was probably tension on the set.

It does bug me that it has pretenses of being very accurate, but they still have thing like people with repressed memories, that come to the fore just in time to solve a crime, and that they have the same idiotic idea of a TV genius you see over and over from writers.

[Fisherman]

Who am I to say, Lynn?

The best,
Fisherman

[lynn cates]

go figure

Hello Christer. Thanks.

Well, I'd like to think I've figured MANY things out about these killings. Perhaps I flatter myself?

Cheers.
LC