Patterns formed by murder locations

[lynn cates]

a sign

Hello Raven. I tend to agree with you about its being nonsense. I tried connecting the dots once and was quite certain I saw an extended middle finger.

A sign?

Cheers.
LC

[Steven Russell]

I agree with Raven that the whole drawing lines on maps business is almost certainly of no significance whatsoever. However, I did see an interesting programme about the Zodiac recently which was quite persuasive in suggesting that locations were chosen deliberately to form specific patterns and angles. It was suggested that when one particular location needed to be marked, Zodiac simply hired a cab, gave the cabbie the required location, and killed and left him on that spot. Easy. But in the Ripper case? Extremely doubtful in my view.

Best wishes,
Steve.

[moonbegger]

Hello Raven ,

Interesting post .

How could JtR made certain a victim was at a particular spot? I mean check Mitre Square. Eddows was in jail sleeping off a drunk, and when released walked through the square area and met history.

I was under the impression that when she was released from Bishopsgate Cop shop , she said she was heading home .. which is the opposite direction to Mitre Sq ?

cheers

moonbegger

[RavenDarkendale]

Much has been made of patterns formed by connecting the dots on a map representing the murder sites.

For proponents of only four victims, this is usually a cross. You can find this easily enough, but it depends on how you connect them. 4 points will make a cross, but also a square, rectangle, x, etc.

Proponents of five victims mention a pentagram, an M, the Ichthys symbol, etc.

Five points gives you a star, but a pentagram is a special star, which I don't see. The M is there, for Maybrick or Masons, but it could be reversed as a W, for Whitechapel, whore, women, and so on, ad infinitum. The explanation for the Ichthys symbol makes me ill, as it depends on a point not in the right place so they move it slightly.

For others using more victims gives other emblems. The author of The Bell Tower, using JtR in San Francisco committing the bell tower murders, the symbol is a specialized cross with two bars, a long and a short one over the upright. There is a rumor, which means I cannot remember where I read it, that with more victims you can draw a masonic arc and compass.

Frankly, I think the whole idea of a symbol formed deliberately by JtR with murder scenes is highly perfumed bs. The Ripper crimes were "crimes of opportunity". How could JtR made certain a victim was at a particular spot? I mean check Mitre Square. Eddows was in jail sleeping off a drunk, and when released walked through the square area and met history. If we believe the C5, the Ripper was fleeing the crime scene of Elizabeth Stride, so he ran to Mitre Square because he needed a victim there? Preposterous!

How do we choose points to draw from in what order? It is like constellations. The Greeks and Romans must have been very drunk to imagine that certain stars formed the fantastic shapes they claimed! Even the Big Dipper and the Southern Cross depend on how you connect the dots.

Any thoughts from anyone on these?