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  • #91
    Originally posted by DJA View Post
    Have a look at the syntax.
    Subject,verb and object.
    I think I have to agree with you, Dave, and with DC Halse. The first line was likely "The Juwes are" or "The Juwes" (if we accept PC Long and his "comma") the second line was the action and the object "nothing" as the third line.

    This doesn't appear to help my case at first glance but it's the premise I will work on.

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    • #92
      So ..... Old Jewry ...... will not be blamed ..... for Catherine Eddowes

      Seems logical from Jack's point of view.
      My name is Dave. You cannot reach me through Debs email account

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Curious Cat View Post

        There wasn't an actual dado rail either physical or represented in paint.
        We don't actually know that - not that it matters.
        Kind regards, Sam Flynn

        "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Trapperologist View Post
          I think I have to agree with you, Dave, and with DC Halse. The first line was likely "The Juwes are" or "The Juwes" (if we accept PC Long and his "comma") the second line was the action and the object "nothing" as the third line.

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          With letters between a half and three-quarters of an inch square, "not the men that will be blamed for nothing" couldn't possibly fit on the door jamb.
          Kind regards, Sam Flynn

          "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Curious Cat View Post

            May just be me but I find it odd that a piece of graffiti that was made to goad/incite Jewish people in the area was rubbed out for fear it cause others to attack Jews on masse instead. Why would anyone attack Jews and/or wreck the building for graffiti that was making a jab at them in the first place?
            The context is everything, and in this case it might be that the police saw a sort of call to arms in that GSG, the author suggesting essentially that Jews are getting away with...whatever. Or everything. This could be a combination of antisemitism and people feeling overcrowded in what they perceived as their own neighborhoods. I think the threat was seen as a pushback against both of those.

            I also think that its possible the author was saying that the Berner Street Jews were trying to evade blame for what happened there on that same night, which would then mean he is suggesting that it was someone there who probably killed the woman. If he is also the man that leaves the apron section, for me, its a confirmation on which murder(s) he, the Mitre square killer, committed that night. Hes saying it was probably the Jews there on site. He had over an hour to learn of this murder and come back out and place the apron and/or section. Gets even more interesting if the Mitre Square murderer isn't Jack either.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post

              We don't actually know that - not that it matters.
              According to the Daily News account from Halse;

              "The bricks are painted black up to about four feet high, like a dado, and above that are white."

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post

                According to the Daily News account from Halse;

                "The bricks are painted black up to about four feet high, like a dado, and above that are white."
                Excellent - that also clarifies what Halse meant by a dado. Two pieces of enlightenment for the price of one. Bargain!
                Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post

                  With letters between a half and three-quarters of an inch square, "not the men that will be blamed for nothing" couldn't possibly fit on the door jamb.
                  I guess I have to go with where the evidence takes me and that’s back to the wall, and away from Warren and the door jamb story.

                  It also takes me to a new set of possible indents that need investigation as possible clues.

                  No convention of average people I know explains those indents.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Trapperologist View Post
                    No convention of average people I know explains those indents.
                    I'm an average person, and I've definitely used that convention. I'd scan some examples from my old school books to prove it, but frankly I can't be arsed.
                    Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                    "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                    • Originally posted by Trapperologist View Post
                      I guess I have to go with where the evidence takes me and that’s back to the wall, and away from Warren and the door jamb story.

                      It also takes me to a new set of possible indents that need investigation as possible clues.

                      No convention of average people I know explains those indents.
                      hi Trap
                      and what is this all getting at? I mean what significance is it to anything how the indents went?
                      "Is all that we see or seem
                      but a dream within a dream?"

                      -Edgar Allan Poe


                      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                      -Frederick G. Abberline

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                      • Originally posted by Trapperologist View Post
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                        You use the above convention, Sam?

                        This is the one I’m talking about now.

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                        • Originally posted by Trapperologist View Post
                          You use the above convention, Sam?

                          This is the one I’m talking about now.
                          Sorry, I was thinking about the Home Office/Warren memo.
                          Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                          "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                          • Originally posted by Kattrup View Post
                            Hi trapper

                            bear in mind that Halse states there were three lines of writing.
                            to my mind the indentations of the third and fifth line are not original.
                            I’m agreeing with you and Halse now, Kattrup.

                            He has indents and centering on the first and third line.

                            If it can’t be explained away, and is then the reliable version, it can’t help but make a difference, especially with “nothing” centred in the bottom.

                            I take it the quotes are the one convention he’s observing here.... (as per last post image)

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                            • Originally posted by Trapperologist View Post

                              I take it the quotes are the one convention he’s observing here.... (as per last post image)
                              Indeed, the same convention that puts quotes before:
                              "not the men that will be blamed for
                              Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                              "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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