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[mariab]

He He Lynn, in that case, I should have been a Scot (lassie) too! (Like Lassie the dog.)
Lynn, I've got stuff to email you, but I need to get rid of the fever first, take care of some things, and finish researching something. Couple days.

Hello Phil. Could you direct me to the thread pertaining to your books' sale?

[Phil Carter]

Hello Dave,

Porter's 'Vigilance' is one of the books I have for sale- have a look through the list and see if there is anything you need (on the 'books' thread)

best wishes

Phil (shamelessly plugging his book collection sale)

[lynn cates]

money

Hello Dave. Thanks. Given your pecuniary remarks, do I understand another Scots lad? (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[Cogidubnus]

Hi Maria

Yes at £113 I'd have (regretfully) had to do that...but for a tenner I'll just buy the book...To be honest, if it had still been in print, I'd've gone for a new copy anyway as I have over the years for many others...for obvious reasons...

All the best

Dave

[mariab]

Dave,
you can order it from a library and have it xeroxed. What I do.

[Cogidubnus]

Bernard Porter book

Hi Lynn

I nearly died just then...I entered that book into amazon.co.uk and found the cheapest example quoted second-hand at £113...then went to my usual supplier and found an example for just over a tenner including postage...and on the basis of a price of that nature I'll add it to my (somewhat long) list...

My one compensation is that the last of my two sets of female twins (plus incidental boy child) has just (Friday) left home and I'm getting her room as a den...oh god at last somewhere other than the sitting room shelves, the dining room wall, the bureaux and the bedroom shelves to store my precious books!

All the best

Dave

[Simon Wood]

Hi Maria,

Proselytise you?

Perhaps in time I may be able to convert a true believer in Jack the Ripper—possibly the greatest scam ever devised.

In the meantime, may you forever chase your phantom with a heart brimful of hope.

Regards,

Simon

[mariab]

Simon, you're trying to proselytise me? ;-) I hear that this consists a felony in California.
The wet cloth though was a sound advice. I might try it on later, as I could practically bake eggs on my forehead right now. (Just the idea of it makes me hungry.)

Hi Maria
With due respect, that's sheer speculation on your part that the Ripper "most probably WAS approached by the police at some point, the way Ridgway was." True, that might have been so if the Ripper was a local man, but I think it's less likely if he was not from the area. We simply don't know if the Ripper was ever questioned.

Absolutely, I'm only speculating. But a fair possibility that he was JUST there, watching the police sweating it.

[ChrisGeorge]

For one thing, the Whitechapel murders were modern, in the sense that we have a serial killer very much in the way defined as today.
Second of all, I was referring to the inability of the police to catch the perp due to difficulties with resources/logistics.
Plus the Ripper (besides all questions of suspectology) most probably WAS approached by the police at some point, the way Ridgway was.

Hi Maria

With due respect, that's sheer speculation on your part that the Ripper "most probably WAS approached by the police at some point, the way Ridgway was." True, that might have been so if the Ripper was a local man, but I think it's less likely if he was not from the area. We simply don't know if the Ripper was ever questioned.

Best regards

Chris

[Tom_Wescott]

What on earth has the Green River Killer or any other serial-killing nutbag of recent years got to do with the price of fish?

Trying dumping a bunch of corpses in YOUR lakes and see if the fisherman don't charge you more for your fish, pal.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[PaulB]

Hi Paul,

Historians usually insist on a fairly bullet-proof set of reasons for giving a higher priority to one source over another.

But in the matter of JtR those bullet-proof reasons remain elusive.

Regards,

Simon

Simon,
I think you'll find that historians recognise that no set of reasons is 'fairly bullet proof', which is one of the many reasons why history is fluid and subject to change, but prioritising sources, in the first instance at least, is nevertheless a straightforward process which follows generally accepted basic criteria.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Maria,

You're trying desperately to find some resonance between JtR and the century-later Green River Killer.

It is merely a widely-held belief that the Whitechapel murders were the work of one person, and all we have in support of this is conjecture, rumour, contradiction and gossip. Proof remains at a premium.

However, the truth may have been very different.

What's your problem with that?

Regards,

Simon

[Simon Wood]

Hi Paul,

Historians usually insist on a fairly bullet-proof set of reasons for giving a higher priority to one source over another.

But in the matter of JtR those bullet-proof reasons remain elusive.

Regards,

Simon

[mariab]

Hi Maria,
What on earth has the Green River Killer or any other serial-killing nutbag of recent years got to do with the price of fish?
You cannot retro-fit motive, opportunity, locality, mobility or any other aspect of these more modern cases to the Whitechapel murders.

For one thing, the Whitechapel murders were modern, in the sense that we have a serial killer very much in the way defined as today.
Second of all, I was referring to the inability of the police to catch the perp due to difficulties with resources/logistics.
Plus the Ripper (besides all questions of suspectology) most probably WAS approached by the police at some point, the way Ridgway was.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Maria,

What on earth has the Green River Killer or any other serial-killing nutbag of recent years got to do with the price of fish?

You cannot retro-fit motive, opportunity, locality, mobility or any other aspect of these more modern cases to the Whitechapel murders.

To do so is nothing more than a desperate attempt to make the cherished idea of Jack the Ripper come true.

Regards,

Simon