Serial Killers, A pattern???

[DVV]

David,

That conclusion is????(drumb rolls )

You want it ?
Rendez-vous at the Calypso, tomorrow morning, around 6.
PM me if if you're unlucky enough to live far from my village.
If not, there will be a red flower on my wideawake.

Amitiés,
David

[corey123]

You want it ?
Rendez-vous at the Calypso, tomorrow morning, around 6.
PM me if if you're unlucky enough to live far from my village.
If not, there will be a red flower on my wideawake.

Amitiés,
David

There you lost me.

I dont think I live near you.

Now Im confused?

[DVV]

Corey,

one has to be brave to get the Truth.
Indeed, some go to Lhassa on their knees.

Tomorrow 6.
Or private message!
Pas d'arrangements!

Amitiés,
David

[perrymason]

David,

Seems like you believe that you have a handle on this serial killer of 5, no more no less, the only thing I can say is you have my congratulations.....121 years and no connective threads to one man as the killer,... but youve found one. For myself, I cannot believe any premise that would conclude with a solo Jack the Ripper killing the Canonical Group because there is nothing I have seen in any evidence that would support that conclusion,... so I guess Ill have to pass on the celebrations.

When there are possible motives for some of those crimes that have credence in either the physical or the circumstantial evidence, or both....I can only assume it must be conjecture that closes those gaps and points to a single bloodthirsty fiend.

In so many ways I am shocked at the defense of this notion since clearly its been unprovable since day one, and its only a heartbeat away from our top hatted, Gladstone carrying Toff urban legend.....which is also a non starter, as its clearly fiction.

Comparing what was happening in those neighborhoods with serial sexual predators data in the modern era is common round here....no doubt....what isnt so clear is what if any value those observations may have in revealing truths about these cases.

Each murder in the Canon is unique in some form, the closest matches are the first 2, however the possible motives are not necessarily unique at all, nor are they the same in each case necessarily.

Of course for the Canon argument to work, a 2 second tussle and choke that ends with a single artery severing is closely related by motive to the complete evisceration of the abdomen of a corpse......because we all know that why killers kill almost certainly doesnt change within any length of murder series,.... dont we?

Or do we? Id certainly be interested in knowing about a serial killer who changed the reason for killing throughout his "series"...changed his/her motives for committing the crime....to my knowledge that would be a very, very rare case.

Because we have circumstantial and physical evidence and professional opinion that suggests that C1 and C2 were probably killed so the killer could take the organ that is only successfully taken from the 2nd victim....we only know that C3's killer wanted her dead, and in the last 2 cases knife acts that have no purpose and with no prior appearance are repeated. No one ever claimed Kate of Mary were killed for the organs taken from them.....because its obvious that the evidence doesnt suggest that as it does in the first 2 murders.

Taking an organ in and of itself is only indicative of a link....why the organ was taken is whats truly important.

In C4 and C5 the organs may have been taken simply because it would be expected....not because the killer had desires that included them, or that he was focused on them. The killer in C1 and C2 was focused......clearly.

Best regards and Happy New Year!!

[DVV]

Ah, my dear Mike,

I don't have any C5... Just one WM, aka JtR, aka the murderer of Annie Chapman and some other women before and after her... How many ? I don't know exactly... 4 at least, most probably 6, perharps seven.
The Devil knows.

Amitiés Mike,
Tous mes voeux,
David

A l'an qué vèn, e se sian pas mai, qué sichen pas mens...!

[corey123]

Mike,

Enough of this on my thread.
Make your own one for this theory.

Which I am about sick of argueing about.

The five murders have NOT been Unproven and still may be all connected.

It is the manner of opinion.

It beats me why you think a killer must kill EXACTLY the way they do EVERY SINGLE TIME.

EACH of the FIVE murders are VERY EXTREAMILY SIMILAR with some differences and you refuse to see that.

We, David and I see a serial killers, Many people scratch that most people on this forum see a serial killer. Experts of criminology see a serial killer.

It is our opinion and if you wish to argue over it make another thread but this one is for those who think the murders to be the work of a serial killer.

Thank you

[Sam Flynn]

Each murder in the Canon is unique in some form, the closest matches are the first 2

I couldn't disagree more, Mike. The closest matches in the "canon" are surely 2 and 4, if one must match them.

In C4 and C5 the organs may have been taken simply because it would be expected....not because the killer had desires that included them, or that he was focused on them. The killer in C1 and C2 was focused......clearly.

Clearly not to the extent that he failed to remove the organ in the case of C1. Nichols had her belly slashed, 'tis true, but quite a few other killers have done that to their victims - Jack, on the other hand, was a rarer beast, one who cut out organs as well. Not that I'm suggesting for a minute that Jack didn't kill Nichols - I'm convinced he did - but, in the scheme of things, she's somewhat less of a certainty than Eddowes.

Because we have... professional opinion that suggests that C1 and C2 were probably killed so the killer could take the organ

Bagster Phillips' views in respect of Eddowes and Kelly are not recorded, and neither are those of Wynne Baxter - for the very good reason that neither was officially attached to their cases. That doesn't mean that they wouldn't have thought or said precisely the same things of them, viz., that Eddowes and Kelly were killed so that the killer could make away with one or other of their organs. In fact, I'd have been utterly amazed at their stupidity if they'd failed to think so.

[DVV]

Sam,

don't you know Mike is systematically on the prowl on Bank Holidays ?
Beware, he has a huge possee.

Llawen a Blwyddyn mon cher!

[corey123]

Mike, david, Sam, All,

This thread is really going Mad with theorys, Conspiracys, Narccissistic killers, OCD, Terrorism, ECT.


I want this thread to be discussed about mental and behavioral patterns in the murders from the view point that the murderer is a serial killer. Which meens that at least 3 of the cannons are connected.

Please keep it to these.

yours truly

[corey123]

I have made a thread for that discussion, Its a poll so I want everyone to vote.

Please and thank you.

Thread name:battle ground.

[DVV]

Mike, david, Sam, All,

This thread is really going Mad with theorys, Conspiracys, Narccissistic killers, OCD, Terrorism, ECT.


yours truly

Ayzosh, Corey!

just a pub talk about narcissism.

"And everytime I get
To the first day of summer
Takes me back to the place where they gave ECT
And the drug up psychos with death in their eyes
And all of this really means nothing to me..."

Amitiés
David

[corey123]

David,

Nice poem.

Narcissist, OCD, schizephrenia I dont care what disorder it is as long it had to do with a man who killed at least three people. Becuase without a serial killer what pattern can arise???

NONE.

yours truly

[DVV]

I'll sing it in the Calypso right at 6.
Then you'll hear "A pair of brown eyes" and "Boys from the county Hell".

A man like me should be in the cemetery.

You've good taste, Corey,
(that was from "Dark streets of London", the Pogues)

[corey123]

If only I could whip up a teleport machine and go to France befor 6.

I guess I will just miss the singing then.

[DVV]

Ayzosh Corey,

I'm steady enough to sing in America.
Where are you exactly?
I'm dreaming of myself in custody in the Midwest.

Then I'd go to the Beach Boys:
"The midwest farmers' daughters
Really make me feel all right..."