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  • #106
    Originally posted by corey123 View Post
    I see a bit of OCD in jack.

    For one the arrangment of MJKs cloths, neat and bloodstainless, folded on a chair show some neat and orderly behavior, as with the way he arranged his victims, well at least some of them, by placing the intestine over the shoulder. Assuming he did arrange her clothes there.

    yours truly
    Hi corey,

    Your last line is the key there, because as Sam Flynn discovered when he investigated the "neatly folded" clothes there is no actual evidence anywhere that confirms they were folded neatly. In fact when Mary undressed after she arrived home, she may have hung her clothing over the chair to dry by the fire...it had been raining.

    The intestines were just removed and placed out of the way....they werent "statements". It is interesting though over which shoulder?....of the victims who had this done to them. The only evidence that he may have done something unusual with those placements...before the free for all in room 13....are the reports that suggest the section of Kates colon that have been cut by him...approx 2ft long.... had one end twisted into her neck wound.

    That does not appear in the formal investigation though, or on Browns sketch.

    Best regards corey

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    • #107
      Hmm, I have never heard of that account, of a peice of intestine twisted into one of the neck wounds???
      Washington Irving:

      "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

      Stratford-on-Avon

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      • #108
        Hi Corey,

        when it comes to those unfamous "placements", there are plenty of fanciful press reports and even errors in recent books, in fact.

        Amitiés,
        David
        Last edited by DVV; 12-23-2009, 07:20 PM.

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        • #109
          Originally posted by DVV View Post
          Hi Corey,

          when it comes to those unfamous "placements", there are plenty of fanciful press reports and even errors in recent books, in fact.

          Amitiés,
          David
          Quite so David, it seems that the only crime scene that has inexplicable organ "arrangements" was the murder scene in Millers Court.

          As I mentioned, the intestines in the field surgery cases were found where they were probably because he just placed them out of his way during the mutilations.

          That motive couldnt apply however to a breast and uterus found under a head.

          Cheers mates

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          • #110
            Interesting

            Weird that I have never heard of those myths, I know better to stay away from them though.


            thanks
            Washington Irving:

            "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

            Stratford-on-Avon

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            • #111
              Hi Corey,

              Still Bond's report is more sickening than the mistaken reports, alas.

              Amitiés
              David

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              • #112
                Yes

                You are correct.

                I still see signs of OCD but its not worth argueing about it...


                Tomorrows christmas eve!!

                Have a happy holiday.
                Washington Irving:

                "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                Stratford-on-Avon

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                • #113
                  I would agree with most of the OP.....with the addition of strangulation as the method of killing (or at lease incapacitating) the victims. Great post, obviously well thought out and researched.
                  protohistorian-Where would we be without Stewart Evans or Paul Begg,Kieth Skinner, Martin Fido,or Donald Rumbelow?

                  Sox-Knee deep in Princes & Painters with Fenian ties who did not mutilate the women at the scene, but waited with baited breath outside the mortuary to carry out their evil plots before rushing home for tea with the wife...who would later poison them of course

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                  • #114
                    Yea

                    The OP??

                    Anyways thank sox.

                    yours truly
                    Washington Irving:

                    "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                    Stratford-on-Avon

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                    • #115
                      Rumbelow

                      Hello Corey. You should have a go at the introduction to Rumbelow's book, "The Complete Jack the Ripper." Colin Wilson makes some observations there which are grist for your mill.

                      The best.
                      LC

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                      • #116
                        merry christmas

                        Hi lynn,

                        Should I? What part particular would it pertain to?

                        OCD?
                        Narcissism?
                        Mentalality of jack??

                        I have some free spending money in my wallet I might have a look(though I was planning to spend it one the rest of the MEPO archives that I dont have lol)

                        yours truly
                        Washington Irving:

                        "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                        Stratford-on-Avon

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                        • #117
                          goodies

                          Hello Corey. It seems to touch on perhaps all three.

                          There is also a chapter dedicated to the Dusseldorf ripper. I'm sure you will find that interesting as well. The psychological traumas inflicted on him whilst young should be noted.

                          The best.
                          LC

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                          • #118
                            Hmm

                            Maybe I should buy it.

                            thanks for the tip lynn and merry Christmas.
                            Washington Irving:

                            "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                            Stratford-on-Avon

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                            • #119
                              cheers

                              Hello Corey. The same.

                              Enjoy reading the book.

                              The best.
                              LC

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                              • #120
                                I will.

                                Yours truly
                                Washington Irving:

                                "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                                Stratford-on-Avon

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