The mind of "Jack The Ripper"`

I find it amazing that questions like...."what was the killer thinking".....are even being asked with the hopes that an answer thats posted might somehow provide some clarity in the investigations.

There is no evidence in any murder that is studied regarding the Ripper to allow for any knowledege of:

Who he was, From Where, Who he killed, or Why he killed.

Looking to "open" the mind of the killer should start with a known single killer....(there is evidence in some Canonical murders that 2 or more people may have been involved)....a known and agreed upon list of crimes,...(we dont have that), ....a known range....(we dont know that the less than square mile was the only placed he could have killed in London, just that it was the only place he seems to have killed...), and something about his life or family...to assess the roots of any psychosis he might have had, something we also dont have.

It would seem the only way you could possibly be able to try and understand the mind of someone is by having access to that mind or the actions or activities that the mind in question performed.

This notion comes from studying serial killers in the modern ear to evaluate the causes for their violence.....what people seem to forget is that you need a subject in hand to even begin to study anything. Jack the Ripper is a pen name and an Unsub...no-one knows anything about him.

So all we can know about Jacks mind is that guilt, remorse, compassion or morality seemingly were not concepts that he embraced.

Best regards

[corey123]

I had always thought that a small geographical profile indicated a disorganised killer,
and an organised killers geographicle profile would be much much larger and hard to connect, spanning miles.

Maybe he is saying that this very small confined profile was due to his mobility option, walking.

yours truly

You might care to read Chapter Six in the following, ...

http://www.casebook.org/ripper_media...roe_full2.html

"..., this unusually confined criminal range is indicative of disorganization, implying in context of latter-day profiling techniques an immobile offender who travelled to and from each crime scene on foot."

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[Garry Wroe]

You're most welcome, Corey.

Best wishes.

Garry Wroe.

[corey123]

Jack a narcassistic

It seems very plausable that Jack the Ripper could indeed be a severe narcasssistic. It fits perfectly.
The way he slaughtered those women and didnt feel any remorse.
The exploitation of the victims.
His charm and verbal skills that most likely helped lure in his victims.

I could go on and on but it all fits.

[corey123]

Jack with profiling.

Garry,

Thank you for that, it was highly interesting and informative.

yours truly

[Garry Wroe]

You might care to read Chapter Six in the following, Corey:-

http://www.casebook.org/ripper_media...roe_full2.html

All the best.

Garry Wroe.

[corey123]

Pathology

Mike,
that was a truly good statement. I agree 100%, but I wish to know more of the ripper. Was he a narcassist? Was he a paraniod schitophrenic? Did he kill for lust or for vengence or out of anger(most likely)? How could we characterise him? What was he thinking when he killed those poor women? Why did he pick victims from the lowest dreggs of sociaty????Why why why???


yours truly

[mklhawley]

Sorry for the late entry. Six kids, wife, Christmas, etc.

Personally, I like where Corey123 is going. I have some additional and pertinent thoughts about the mind of Jack the Ripper, and I will begin with arguably “normal” people put in the unusual position of being Jacks the Ripper. In 1864, 700 militiamen under the leadership of ex-Civil War Colonel John Chivington massacred 200 Native Americans (Cheyenne), mostly women and children, with atrocious acts, such as cutting off their genitals (men, women, and children!), “ripping” open women, scalping, brain bashing. It is known as the Sand Creek Massacre. Some of Chivington’s militiamen were sickened by what they saw, especially when militiamen were bragging and walking around with their gonad trophies. The attacks of the genitals were anger-retaliatory against the Native Americans.
How did normal men have the capacity to mutilate, Ripper-style? Answer: The psychological technique of first dehumanizing. They first mentally dehumanized the Cheyenne by justifying that they were not human but were worthless and threatening objects. This type of justification was not entirely new to these men, because they were soldiers in the Civil War and were accustomed to dehumanizing before battle. Sadly for soldiers, these images come back to haunt them (PTSD)
Although, I believe JTR’s murders were anger-retaliatory, he was different than the militiamen. Because JTR was a pathological killer for possible reasons given by Corey123, he did not have to first go though the act of dehumanizing. My contention is that JTR’s pathology did not allow him to de-humanize, because he was in a pathological state of “dehumanity”. To de-humanize infers possession of humanity prior to the act of dehumanizing.
Why is this important? A pathological killer can attack calmly even if their motivation is anger-retaliatory, as explained by Dr. Robert Hare, a psychologist at the University of British Columbia. This seems to not only conform to the C5 Ripper killings, but also to the Tabram killing. A Dr. James Blair at UCL claims that the amygdala in the brain where sympathy occurs is in an immature state in tested pathological killers, which causes difficulty in feeling emotion. I can see a learn as you go pathological killer attempting to discover a truly enjoyable MO.

Any additional thoughts?

Sincerely,

Mike

[corey123]

narcasistic

I have thought, maybe Jack was a Narcasist? I have found a type of Narcasistic behavior than can relate to jack.

Aggressive narcissism
This is Factor 1 in the Hare Psychopathy Checklist, which includes the following traits:

Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Pathological lying
Cunning/manipulative
Lack of remorse or guilt
Shallow affect
Callous/lack of empathy
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions.


Narcassism has these traits.

Shamelessness
Magical thinking
Arrogance
Envy
Entitlement
Exploitation
Bad boundaries

[corey123]

copy cat killers

Speaking of copycat killers, I reaad in one of the USA press reports that a man(I dont remember the name) had read one of the storys of "Jack the Ripper" and he was fascinated. So he went home and wated till his wife went to sleep and killed her with an axe, giving himself up later.

yours truly

I note(unrelated to theory) that on 28 march,1888, Ada Wilson was murdered,stabbed twice in the troat.
On 12 july,1889, Alice Mckenzie was murdered, again stabbed twice in the troat, I belive these victims to be the work of either two things, Jack the Ripper or a copycat killer.

they both have similar injuries.

yours truly

Hi corey,

For me personally the throat stabs are much different than the often 2 severe throat cuts while the victim was fully or semi unconscious, lying down.

In the cases of Polly Nichols, Annie Chapman and Kate Eddowes we have evidence that suggests they all were lying down and unable to resist when the knife is FIRST used. Thats not what the evidence says in any other of the unsolved cases in 1888.

Killer methodologies and tools can certainly change, but when they are repeated in 3 of the 5 alleged Ripper kills with only a very probable non-Ripper murder interrupting what would have been 3 consecutive almost identically executed murders...I think that signals a unique individual, one that apparently saw little need to change anything he did in his first 2 murders in what may have been his 3rd.

Cheers corey

[corey123]

Continued

Any new thoughts?

yours truly

[corey123]

Times two

I note(unrelated to theory) that on 28 march,1888, Ada Wilson was murdered,stabbed twice in the troat.
On 12 july,1889, Alice Mckenzie was murdered, again stabbed twice in the troat, I belive these victims to be the work of either two things, Jack the Ripper or a copycat killer.

they both have similar injuries.

yours truly

[corey123]

Eddowes

This is an exert of the mortuary report by Dr.frederick gordon Brown.
" believe the perpetrator of the act must have had considerable knowledge of the position of the organs in the abdominal cavity and the way of removing them. It required a great deal of medical knowledge to have removed the kidney and to know where it was placed. The parts removed would be of no use for any professional purpose.
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yours truly