The mind of "Jack The Ripper"`

[corey123]

I agree with you about Kelly. But when we cross the stride issue I have to go against that.

I firmly beleve stride to be a victem of the ripper. The choice of knife in ky mind has no way to disregard the ripper and because of the change of his usual knife I belive it to be why the cut was superficial and differernt than the others.

Yours truly

[Mascara & Paranoia]

I think the main reasons for dismissing Stride is due to there being no mutilations and the amount of men she was seen with by various witnesses. The reasons I disregard her is because of the superficial (compared to the other canonical victims') throat wound and the venue in which she was murdered. That and all the 'evidence' (I use this term lightly due to only being able to go on Schwartz's statement, which is basically just his word and no proof of anything in the grand scheme of things) seems to point towards the broad-shouldered ruffian being her killer, who probably wasn't the Ripper, going by how he attacked Stride so openly.

Kelly, on the other hand, is probably disregarded as a Ripper victim because she was the only one to have been killed in doors and due to the sheer extent of her mutilations; it fits nicely with the theory of it being a crime of passion (well, in a clichéd novel) made to look like a Ripper killing. That and there's a fair amount of mystery surrounding the girl in question. But realistically, I think it's more probable (and plausible) that she was an actual Ripper victim; the throat wound was done in the exact same way as Nichols', Chapman's and Eddowes', and we know at that point that the killer had upped the ante with his mutilations and decided to indulge in dismantling his victim's face and taking (a) different organ(s) than just the uterus. So that on top of the fact that the killer had the time and privacy to do whatever he wanted makes it more likely than not that it was the Ripper who killed Kelly, rather than a supposed copycat capable of inflicting even worse damage than the 'actual' Ripper.

[lynn cates]

yard

Hello Corey. The problem is that Liz is in the yard, 9 or 10 feet from where the assault took place. Worse still, she is LEAVING the yard.

Check out the Stride thread.

The best.
LC

[corey123]

speculating

OK I have made a possible senareo(spelling) with stride, ok so at 12:45 schwartz witnessed the assult of stride by BS as called in that disseration, and he fleds the scene. We can speculate for all reasons that schwartzs story is true and again speculating that BS left the yard. Then after he leaves(this is where your pouncer ripper plays in) the ripper Sneaks up behind her and swiftly cuts her throat and while waiting for her to bleed out Diemschutz interupts him and he flees.

This is purly speculative.

Another senerio, what iif we threw out Schwartzs story and replaced it with that of James Brown who sees her around the same time with a man down Fairclough street. And lets say the man he saw was the assalient and then walked into dutsfield yard and murdered her, and still got interupted by Deimschutz.

yours truly

[lynn cates]

dissertation

Hello Corey. To see the problem, try here:

http://www.casebook.org/dissertations/dst-fisherman.html

The best.
LC

[corey123]

I have had this on my mind for a while, why do people so quickly push away certain murders like Strides and Kellys?? I will talk about that further into my rant. I am sorry for the repetitance(spelling) but you will see the difference in thsi post.

Ok to begin I want to be in the shoes of the ripper. I am a male, single, aged 35-40. I am white. I have a weekly job. I grew up with a passive or absent father and a disconnected mother, who didnt give me much attention. I became unnattached to society and became asocial. I have a distructive tendancy and I set small fires and tortured animals as I was a kid and discovered my love of dominance over life and of distructiveness. I have a strong hatred towards women, especially prostitutes. I have a small mental illness or psychological disorder and I veiw this to mentally cripple me. I am neat and a good worker. I am shy and have to drink before my kills, for the sake of making myself less nervous.

Jack the ripper killed five women whome he killed to fuel his hatred by de-feminanizing them and de-humanizing them. So we are back to the topic of Kelly and Stride. I will start with Stride.

Why do we so quickly dismiss her? Just because she wasnt killed with the exact same knife used in the other murders? Many documented killers have used various weapons, the zodiac killer for example used first a .22 caliber semi-auto pistol then a 9mm then a 10inch knife then back again to a 9mm. And what if Jack was interupted by Diemschutz and fled the scene? If he had I could speculate that the reason for the overkill with Eddowes was due to the fact that(which I havent seen this stated) but that he may have just been pissed that his kill didnt work out.

What if he didnt just kill for the kill itself but for the fact that he liked killing and like butchering these women to the point of(in Kellys case) of a unidentifiable corpse?? He liked the de-feminizing which is why he cut off the breast and took to uterus. He liked the dehumanizing which is why he went to such extreams in Eddowes and especially in Kellys case which was WAY overkill..

I wish to discuss not just Stride and Kelly, but how we can better picture the Man behind "Jack The Ripper"

Any thoughts?

yours truly