How did JtR see in the dark?

[FISHY1118]

Read post 187 ...to your post 186

[FISHY1118]

Remember Eddows.... 4 minutes to remove a kidney and uterus in the dark ,dream on chapter 8 Marriott book read read read read how they describe the difficulty in that procedure extreme skill and care IN THE DARKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK DREAM ON . THE KILLER WAS A MEDICAL MAN A VERY SKILLED ONE AT THAT . not druitt not cutbush not kominsky or any number of suspects who couldn't tie a shoelace let alone remove organs in that manner .

[FISHY1118]

Haha.. No, there are many who know its the only way the murders were committed. Your still searching for some crazy lunatic that doesn't exist ,you still wont believe the evidence i just told how Chapman was murdered AS KNIGHT TOLD EVERYONE YEARS AGO, ITS OVER BUDDY GIVE IT UP you are in deed blind and silly and still looking for a ghost .

[FISHY1118]

sherlock as your totally confused as to the motive and the people involved which im not surprised, ill no longer discuss it with you ,its just as easy to prove the facts as to how the murders where committed, but your clueless where thats concerned as well, you keep ignoring the medical experts . as far as ripper experts goes, gees that made me laugh there are NO RIPPER EXPERTS

[Herlock Sholmes]

Just to remind you Fishy as you’ve absent-mindedly forgotten to respond to my post citing Simon’s research which destroys Knight’s theory.


“How much more do you need? She wasn’t a Catholic. The place where she was supposed to have lived didnt exist. Sickerts studio where the action centred didn’t exist. The hospital where she was supposed to have been taken didn’t exist.”

End of....

[Herlock Sholmes]

After Richardson left the yard at 4.50am then Chapman was dumped between 4.55 an 5.15 when it was still dark and there was no one around more than enough time to complete the task . ... its not that complicated. she had been dead more than an hour as dr phillips testified to, and was right

You are the only living person that believes this drivel.

Well done

[Herlock Sholmes]

How could long claim to see chapman at 5.30am the cadosche claim he heard a voice say no at 5.15am and something hitting the fence .... presumably chapmans body. ANOTHER CONTRADICTION

For a start you fail to take into consideration that this was the Victorian era and very few poor people would have owned watches or even clocks. They relied on Church clocks and bells. Many of them even relied on policemen to wake them up to go to work in the morning. Therefore, as everyone knows that knows anything about the case, we have to take timings with a pinch of salt.

[Herlock Sholmes]

you contradicted your self when it came to long. end of that story.

Try reading. End of story

[FISHY1118]

After Richardson left the yard at 4.50am then Chapman was dumped between 4.55 an 5.15 when it was still dark and there was no one around more than enough time to complete the task . ... its not that complicated. she had been dead more than an hour as dr phillips testified to, and was right

[FISHY1118]

i suppose that jack took chapman into the back of 29 hanbury st at 5.30am, spent 15 minutes carving her up in what then would be daylight when 17 people were getting ready to start their day while no one saw or heard a single thing, yes thats what must of happened for sure ..... more speculation where this theory is concerned. thats if long is to be believed

[FISHY1118]

How could long claim to see chapman at 5.30am the cadosche claim he heard a voice say no at 5.15am and something hitting the fence .... presumably chapmans body. ANOTHER CONTRADICTION

[FISHY1118]

you contradicted your self when it came to long. end of that story.

[Ginger]

No, Mrs Long is incorrect because right around 5:20 Cadosche, the man right in the next yard, heard someone softly cry out "no". That gives you both the confirmation that there was no dead woman already lying there at 5:20, and it gives you an approximate time of the attack.

FWIW, I have heard it proposed that perhaps Annie was dead and the murderer already gone when Cadosche went into the yard, and that what he heard was a sotto voce exclamation of horror as some unknown person found the body. I don't think it's very likely, but neither do I know a way to disprove it.

[Yabs]

From a scientific point of view it also depends how long Jack was outside in the dark.
If he had recently stepped out into the night from an abode with a light source then he would see next to nothing.

It takes the eyes just a few minutes to adapt to the dark, but after a few hours the eyes become accustomed to even the weakest of light.

And there is always light.

[Michael W Richards]

Ahhh so mrs long is irrelevant when it suit you hmmmmmm

No, Mrs Long is incorrect because right around 5:20 Cadosche, the man right in the next yard, heard someone softly cry out "no". That gives you both the confirmation that there was no dead woman already lying there at 5:20, and it gives you an approximate time of the attack. The time of death estimates had no way to account accurately for the cooling period because in all likelihood none of the physicians had experience estimating that for a disemboweled woman left out in the cool morning air before.