How did JtR see in the dark?

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  • Batman
    Superintendent
    • Jan 2013
    • 2931

    #76
    Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
    Hey! You guys would make a good team.
    I missed that one actually, lol.
    Bona fide canonical and then some.

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    • Simon Wood
      Commissioner
      • Feb 2008
      • 5551

      #77
      Jack wore a magic hat fitted with Aladdin's Lamp, which allowed him to see clearly in the dark without being visible to passers-by.

      QED.
      Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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      • Wickerman
        Commissioner
        • Oct 2008
        • 14864

        #78
        So, was it the magic hat, or the Aladdins Lamp that made Jack invisible to passers-by?
        Regards, Jon S.

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        • Simon Wood
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 5551

          #79
          Magicians never explain their tricks to an audience.
          Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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          • Monty
            Commissioner
            • Feb 2008
            • 5413

            #80
            Originally posted by Rob1n View Post
            Not necessarily, there were plenty of plain clothes Police around, and if he were a Policeman in plain clothes, he'd also have issue equipment, whistle, truncheon, lamp etc.
            No he wouldn’t.

            Monty
            Monty

            https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

            Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

            http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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            • John G
              Commissioner
              • Sep 2014
              • 4919

              #81
              Originally posted by Rob1n View Post
              Not necessarily, there were plenty of plain clothes Police around, and if he were a Policeman in plain clothes, he'd also have issue equipment, whistle, truncheon, lamp etc.
              A plain clothes officer would be a DC, not a PC.

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              • Rob1n
                Constable
                • Aug 2012
                • 91

                #82
                Originally posted by John G View Post
                A plain clothes officer would be a DC, not a PC.
                Well, I read somewhere that some PCs were in plain clothes, possibly caused by a shortage of DCs? Anyway, does it matter whether they were PC or DC?

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                • Wickerman
                  Commissioner
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 14864

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                  Magicians never explain their tricks to an audience.
                  Ah, so is Jack the magician, or Simon?
                  Regards, Jon S.

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                  • Batman
                    Superintendent
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 2931

                    #84
                    PC Jack O'Lantern
                    Bona fide canonical and then some.

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                    • Monty
                      Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 5413

                      #85
                      DCs were not issued with lamps.

                      Monty
                      Monty

                      https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

                      Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                      http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                      • c.d.
                        Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 6562

                        #86
                        You can also turn this question around. How did his victims see in the dark? Were they able to navigate freely or were they somehow reduced to taking baby steps with both hands outstretched so they wouldn't bump into something? If conditions were such that his victims could see then it stands to reason that so could Jack.

                        c.d.

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                        • Sam Flynn
                          Casebook Supporter
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 13322

                          #87
                          Brilliant observation, CD, and a point well made.
                          Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                          "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                          • c.d.
                            Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 6562

                            #88
                            Thanks, Sam. Even the sun shines on a dog's ass some days.

                            c.d.

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                            • Wickerman
                              Commissioner
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 14864

                              #89
                              To my mind, the difference might be that for the most part victims knew the streets and alleys in daylight, so can walk them at night without stumbling.

                              Whether this also applies to the killer will depend on whether he was a local or not.

                              Where I have reservations is the lamp theory. That the killer might have used one.
                              I can't imagine the killer having a free hand to hold the lamp while he strangles & mutilates a victim.
                              If he puts the lamp down on the ground while he opens the abdomen, the lamp will not cast light into the abdomen. It needs to be held above the body to cast light down.
                              He needs a third hand, and if he hangs it from his jacket (buttonhole?) he'll burn his face.
                              It's another non-starter theory in my view.
                              Last edited by Wickerman; 11-03-2018, 03:42 PM.
                              Regards, Jon S.

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                              • MrBarnett
                                *
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 5672

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Monty View Post
                                DCs were not issued with lamps.

                                Monty
                                Nor, I would imagine, PCs in plain clothes? Not a lot of point in dressing in muffti and carrying a bullseye, I'd have thought.

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