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  • DJA
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    [QUOTE=Pierre;378837]
    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    The cuts were well planned and well performed.

    Do you think the killer would have chosen the International Working Men's Educational Club as the site for performing extensive mutilations?

    If you donīt think so, why do you think he chose the site?

    Regards, Pierre
    Reckon Eddowes and Jack agreed on IWMC the previous day.

    Stride and BS Man were Kate's accomplices in a blackmail pay off.

    Eddowes celebrated with a part payment and was locked up.

    The fact that she headed straight for Mitre Square on release suggests Jack had a bolt hole there.
    My money is on 6 Mitre Street.

    Incidentally,Stride was of no interest to Jack,although she was most likely a patient. Hence no mutilation/post mortem.

    Anyone in England prepared to do a title search for me?
    I can cover expenses via PayPal.
    Probably just a matter of 'phoning for a form,filling it in and posting it back with payment.
    Kindly PM me if capable of doing that.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by The Good Michael View Post
    I will take that further and suggest that the women chose the sites of the dalliance more often than not because they were the experts much more so than the customers. They knew where they hadn't been shooed away. They knew where other woman may have marked their own spots. They knew how to avoid trouble from the police and locals, if not from the Ripper.

    Mike
    Bingo.

    But I would just add that perhaps if Tabram was a ripper victim and his first kill, then perhaps she was his trigger kill, and he came upon her passed out in the stairwell. I believe the residents there said that people used to sleep there.

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  • MsWeatherwax
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    Completely agree. I think it's unlikely that the clients ever chose the location of the 'liasons', unless they were flush enough to have a private room or house to take the woman to.

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  • The Good Michael
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    Originally posted by c.d. View Post

    We don't know for a fact that Jack (if it was Jack and I think it was) chose the site.
    I will take that further and suggest that the women chose the sites of the dalliance more often than not because they were the experts much more so than the customers. They knew where they hadn't been shooed away. They knew where other woman may have marked their own spots. They knew how to avoid trouble from the police and locals, if not from the Ripper.

    Mike

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  • Elamarna
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    Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
    They probably weren't, but nobody can say for sure.
    that view is one I have no trouble with at all Scott.

    Steve

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
    They probably weren't, but nobody can say for sure.
    Oh Pierre can say for sure, he can even tell you how to think.

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  • Scott Nelson
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    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    The cuts were well planned and well performed.
    They probably weren't, but nobody can say for sure.

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  • Elamarna
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    [QUOTE=Pierre;378837]
    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    The cuts were well planned and well performed.

    Do you think the killer would have chosen the International Working Men's Educational Club as the site for performing extensive mutilations?

    If you donīt think so, why do you think he chose the site?

    Regards, Pierre
    Re the cuts

    That is your opinion , which you are entitled to, however please refrain from presenting it as a fact, it is not!

    It is not certain that Stride was killed by the same killer as Eddowes, highly possible but there does remain a doubt.

    I do not believe that he chose the sites. that is again your opinion, peddle it has much as you want.

    regards

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  • c.d.
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    Hello Pierre,

    We don't know for a fact that Jack (if it was Jack and I think it was) chose the site. It might have been chosen by Liz. It is also possible that his desire to kill right there and then caused him to choose a site that in retrospect could have been better for his desired purposes, i.e., mutilation.

    It is also possible that since at this point there had been previous murders that he would have been reluctant to be too persistent in his attempt to suggest a site that was more to his liking since this might have aroused suspicion in his victim.

    c.d.

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  • Pierre
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    [QUOTE=Elamarna;378694]
    No, the cuts were incidental, no meaning other than the killers going further than in previous murders, especially if disturbed on Stride.
    The cuts were well planned and well performed.

    Do you think the killer would have chosen the International Working Men's Educational Club as the site for performing extensive mutilations?

    If you donīt think so, why do you think he chose the site?

    Regards, Pierre

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  • Pierre
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    Originally posted by DJA View Post
    One of the very few things that you have right.

    Then again,give enough monkeys typewriters.........
    Thank you. But at least we are higher up than cockroaches.

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  • Pierre
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    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    Pierre

    That what someone says if they disagree with a post.

    And your point?

    Steve
    That nothing grows in the desert.

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  • DJA
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    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    So the cuts and the writing were important.

    Regards, Pierre
    One of the very few things that you have right.

    Then again,give enough monkeys typewriters.........

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  • Elamarna
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    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    Another contradiction. Begins with the word "no". Ends with "nothing to do with...".
    Pierre

    That what someone says if they disagree with a post.

    And your point?

    Steve

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  • Pierre
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    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    No, the cuts were incidental, no meaning other than the killers going further than in previous murders, especially if disturbed on Stride. And it is still debatable if she was a victim of the killer, or if he was disturbed.
    The writing had nothing to do with the murders.

    Steve
    Another contradiction. Begins with the word "no". Ends with "nothing to do with...".

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