The meaning of the GSG wording

[Malcolm X]

but why throw blame upon the Jews, if JTR does not already know about LIZ STRIDE.......uuuuummm

because this murder is simply another Chapman etc, there is no connection to the Jews and none was mentioned in the earlier murders either, so why would JTR who knows sod all about Stride, suddenly blame the Jews, because there is no connection plus this coincidence is way too strong, there are only two explanations.

1..... JTR already knew that Stride had been killed by someone else and where...... this would be easy to find out, you'd here the police whistles, noise, shouting, crowd etc!
2......JTR killed Liz

now which is it, well i'm guessing and with sound reasoning, that JTR already had the chalk on him before leaving home, the graffito was originally destined for the gates of Dutfields.

i've had this theory for over 6 years, Ben and i used to talk about it

[lynn cates]

right

Hello Tom. That's correct. Well spoke.

Cheers.
LC

[Tom_Wescott]

Apologies, it seems I'm in error.

Enlighten me Tom.

Monty

"...and the purport of the writing...was to throw blame upon the Jews..." --- Nov 6th, 1888 report by Chief Inspector Donald S. Swanson, pgs 186-87, Ultimate (first edition).

"Sir Charles Warren was instantly apprised of this discovery, and, coming down himself, ordered the words to be wiped out, alleging as his reason for so doing that he feared a rising against the Jews. This was, I thought, a fatal mistake, as Superintendent Mac William plainly told Sir Charles when he called about seven o'clock, accompanied by Superintendent Arnold. It is just possible the words, if photographed, might have afforded an important clue."-----Sir Henry Smith, From Constable to Commissioner (1910)

And then of course there’s the report by Warren where, following the double event, he became convinced that a ‘secret society’ was behind the murders and attempting to throw the blame upon the Jews, a veiled reference at least in part to the graffiti. I imagine there are more such references by the police, such as the one you mentioned by Moore in 1896, but these are the few that come right to my mind. I think it’s sufficient to show there was early belief at the highest levels of police that the Ripper at least might have been responsible for the writing.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Abby Normal]

So only those who believe that the killer wrote the message are supposed to be posting in this thread regardless of no substantiated documentation?

I'll buzz-off then.

Hi Heinrich
No. Absolutely not. Even if you dont beleive it was written by the killer, I ask you to assume it was and what the heck did it mean?

[Abby Normal]

The only reason Long saw it was because he was looking for blodd splatter. He never alluded to a connection, merely reported its location.

Several High rankers commented upon the writing as from the killer in books and news reports. Not one mentions a connection in any official report other than Moore.

Warren never stated a connection. The reason he had it removed was the possible implication and assumption made by others. He erased it due o public order implications

Warren was heavily cricitised for removing possible evidence/clue. It has never been ascertained.

The Police would have investigated it not because they certainly though it was a clue, but rather because of a possibility it was a clue. At no stage during the initial investigation do they declare the killer wrote it. Only Moore, years later (and who was not at the scene) states the killer wrote it.

We are fully aware of the thread and its title, however to state catagorically the Police believed the writing was created by Jack is misleading. For every high ranking official who stated Jack wrote it there is a middle ranking, and ground level PCs (including those who worked on the case first hand) who state the opposite.

Monty

Hi Monty
Fair enough.

But can i ask you-IF it was written by the killer (and we can at least agree that it is possible) what do you think it meant?