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  • Kattrup
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    Hi Kattrup,

    I'm suspicious of things which are found before they're lost.

    Regards,

    Simon
    I assume you mean the apron piece found by Long? Perhaps you could be a bit more clear about what is suspicious and/or mysterious about it, since me having to guess is not conducive to mutual understanding.

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi Kattrup,

    I'm suspicious of things which are found before they're lost.

    Regards,

    Simon

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by harry View Post
    Where did that inquest report ,that another officer was left at the scene when Long left,come from Leanne.Official records?
    Did any officer,or official report,substanciate that another officer was summoned by Long?
    Did any other officer,in the inquest reports,claim to have been summoned by Long,and stand guard when Long left?
    I have seen this claim before.I have yet to see it authenticated.
    Original Eddowes Inquest papers

    PC Long....
    "Having searched I at once proceeded to the Station Before proceeding there I had heard of a murder having been committed I had heard of the murder in Mitre Square – I left a man 190 in charge of the Beat H Division I told him to take an observation as to any one who entered the building or left it"

    Likely this still won't be good enough, will it Harry.

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  • Darryl Kenyon
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    Looking at a map of Victorian Whitechapel there seems to be a tunnel along Whitechapel High Street starting at one end near Goulston St. Does anyone know if this tunnel was a public walkway?
    Regards Darryl

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  • Kattrup
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    Hi Kattrup,

    I’m not certain why it’s not mysterious to you.

    My apologies to Messrs. Collard and Davis.

    Regards,

    Simon
    Well, it doesn’t seem very mysterious that the officers directly engaged in investigating a violent murder would be immediately apprised of relevant clues. Such as clothing with fresh bloodstains on it.

    why do you find it mysterious?

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi Kattrup,

    I’m not certain why it’s not mysterious to you.

    My apologies to Messrs. Collard and Davis.

    Regards,

    Simon

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by harry View Post
    Where did that inquest report ,that another officer was left at the scene when Long left,come from Leanne.Official records?
    Daily Telegraph transcript of the Inquest, 12th October 1888.
    Did any officer,or official report,substanciate that another officer was summoned by Long?
    Not as far as we know, but why on earth would a "relief" officer, who had discovered nothing but merely posted to guard the scene, have been called to the Inquest?

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  • harry
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    Where did that inquest report ,that another officer was left at the scene when Long left,come from Leanne.Official records?
    Did any officer,or official report,substanciate that another officer was summoned by Long?
    Did any other officer,in the inquest reports,claim to have been summoned by Long,and stand guard when Long left?
    I have seen this claim before.I have yet to see it authenticated.

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  • Kattrup
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post

    How anyone in Mitre Square could have known that “a piece of apron” had been found is a mystery, for at this moment only DC Halse and perhaps Major Smith—plus the two doctors, Brown and Sequeira [still at the mortuary at this time]—were the only people who knew that Eddowes’ apron had a piece missing.
    I’m not sure why it’s mysterious to you?

    Also, I’m not sure why you’re leaving out Inspector Collard and the mortuary keeper, Davis, from your list?

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood
    After returning from the mortuary with Major Smith to Mitre Square, DC Halse heard that “a portion of the apron had been found.”.. How anyone in Mitre Square could have known that “a piece of apron” had been found is a mystery...
    With a murder enquiry freshly launched, I daresay that word would get around quickly and messages would be sent out.
    Last edited by Sam Flynn; 07-03-2019, 08:06 AM.

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  • Simon Wood
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    After returning from the mortuary with Major Smith to Mitre Square, DC Halse heard that “a portion of the apron had been found.” He did not hear anything about a chalked message.

    How anyone in Mitre Square could have known that “a piece of apron” had been found is a mystery, for at this moment only DC Halse and perhaps Major Smith—plus the two doctors, Brown and Sequeira [still at the mortuary at this time]—were the only people who knew that Eddowes’ apron had a piece missing.

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  • Leanne
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    [The Foreman]: Was there any possibility of a stranger escaping from the house? - Not from the front.
    [Coroner]: Did you not know about the back?
    [Long]- No, that was the first time I had been on duty there.

    WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THIS BACK ENTRANCE?

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  • Leanne
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    Originally posted by harry View Post
    Nothing wrong with leaving a potential crime scene unnatennded?
    INQUEST:
    [Coroner] When you went away did you leave anybody in charge?
    [Long] - Yes; the constable on the next beat - 190, H Division - but I do not know his name.

    [Coroner] Did you give him instructions as to what he was to do?
    [Long] - I told him to keep observation on the dwelling house, and see if any one entered or left

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  • harry
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    Nothing wrong with leaving a potential crime scene unnatennded?

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by harry View Post
    Jon,did I say Long didn't know what he was doing,and what plot are you on about?Aren't you the one that is always quoting rules and regulations?So you tell me what Long should have done. Who's faeces was on the cloth? Do you know?
    There was nothing wrong with the way PC Long handled the situation.

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