Dr Barnardo is the killer...?

[Bob Hinton]

Alex is a cowardly slanderer (not really, that's merely my description)

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I’m oblivious to your point Alex because I don’t understand it. I have been stating all along that those slanderous remarks are not facts they are simply your opinions, your labels, you have chosen to use to describe Barnardo. You admit yourself in post 122 that I am correct in assuming this as you say:

“The portion of the sentence which reads: “…this arrogant, mean-spirited, obnoxious little man is merely my description of Barnardo”

The important words here are “merely my description”, which is the point I have been trying to get you to understand with obviously no success. You don’t even claim the defence of stating that you believe them to be true as you then go on to say:

“which I have never claimed as fact”

In other words you have reserved the right to make slanderous remarks to describe someone, while at the same time admitting they have actually no basis in fact.

So posters if Alex starts describing anyone on this board as drug taking, murderous paedophiles, don’t worry it’s merely his description of you and he’s not claiming that you really are!

[Supe]

Alex,

Well, it is was unfortunate that people didn't realize who you were. I was sure all along that "Alex" was Alex Chisholm (as I confirmed privately). Hard to belive, though, how anyone would get you confused with that self-promoting prat Prophet.

Anyway, people may differ with Alex Chisholm on his opinion of Dr. Barnardo, but anyone who suggested Alex was a newbie or has not written cogently and often about the JtR mysteries owes him a big apology--in my opinion, lest we start another foolish squabble.

In any case, Alex Chisholm is "the goods" (despite his long hiatus) and confusing him with someone like AJ "The Profit" was a gross and grievous misunderstanding.

And Alex, I can understand why you might want to shun this thread after what you've been through, but do stick around on the message boards. We need your kind.

Don.
(And, as a gesture toward "full disclosure," Alex was the closest thing I had to a "mentor" when I first joined Casebook many years ago,

[alex]

Evening All

I know I assured Suzi that I would not take up any more forum space and I apologise for doing so now. However, Dan’s post has alerted me to the fact that my posts here have been appearing under the name of just ‘alex.’ Previously all my posts have appeared under the name alex chisholm. Since the last Casebook hiccup I re-registered and mistakenly assumed my posting name was still alex chisholm. So I apologise for any confusion.

I have spent the past few hours trying to rectify the problem, without success, so any suggestions will be gratefully received.

In view of what I’ve read this evening, I deplore what Christian has experienced and I genuinely hope it can be quickly resolved in his favour.

You’ll all be glad to hear, no doubt, that I won’t be continuing the pedantic dispute with Bob, even though his latest reply to me seems to suggest that he continues to be oblivious to the point being made.

Finally, I’d like to thank Rob for his generous apology and Dan for alerting me to the source of the confusion between Prophet and myself on this forum.


Best wishes
alex chisholm

[Rob Clack]

I've just received a very polite e-mail from Alex explaining that he wasn't Prophet and I just want to apologize to him for saying that he was.

Rob

[needler]

This fella must have a brain pan the size of a mosquito's _____ well, you KNOW! To actually believe he can screw around like this, especially with someone as nice, and honest I might add, as Christian.....then expect all of us will forget and buy "his book". It's boggling to think someone this thick might actually have WRITTEN a book, but we all remember BLOODGUILTY, so there you go........miracles do happen, but NOT, I think, in this case (nor in the case of BLOODGUILTY, either!). In the language of the Mercury 7 astronauts he may have "screwed the pooch". WE CAN ONLY HOPE.

Keep after eBay, Christian, AND the cops, AND whomever else might be able to help. Don't let him get away with this.

Regards to Christian and all........

Judy

[Suzi]

Hi all. Just to clarify here - Christian hasn't paid a penny/cent yet. But that's not the point. The issue here is that the little toe-rag in NZ is refusing to honour a legally binding contract.

PHILIP

Exactly Frip!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Check the artwork thread!! (did you get the mega Dids)

GOOD LUCK Christian!!

[thomas]

what the heck!??!?!
does this guy really think that he will sell one lousy copy of his book now? i wouldn't even take a signed manuscript.

therefore i dare say:
FREE CHRISTIAN....errrrr....CHRISTIANS BOOK .-)))

take care
thomas.

[chrisjd]

Hi all,

thanks for all this indeed.

The auction is clearly about that old book. You only have to fight yourself through the whole lot of advertising he wrote instead of a clear description.

Again: Immediately after the end of the auction I sent a message to the seller asking for the total amount incl. trackable shipment. I got no reply. I tried in every way through ebay and casebook pm and there was only silence throughout the week.

On Thursday I started saying if I don't get an answer in the next 12 hours I'll infom ebay which I did and I'm in constant contact with them since.

Then I said if I don't get an answer within 24 hours I'll inform the police at his place in New Plymouth. I did.
And suddenly I got that shabby reply I posted above.

Ally: No, no money lost, as he never sent the total amount I asked for.

But I won an auction and I feel a bargain as well.
He most probably feels the same and he doesn't want to hand out the book.
That is a clear break of ebay regulations, not to speak about the moral side of it. I'm duped so obviously that I will not rest fighting this through.

Prophet read this:

Fact: The auction ended with a winning bid.
Fact: The book is there as you wrote you'll put it on again later this year.
Fact: I won that auction.
Fact: You must sell the book and I must pay for it.

Get yourself out of this mess and send me a total amount in the next 24 hours.
As personal trust is rather destroyed as you can imagine I suggest ebay's trust service.

As soon as the book is here I'll leave you no feedback whatsoever, which is the best I can do.

I also will tell the forum here that you finally came to your senses and all was a misunderstanding.

In case you do not give me what is mine, I'll send a last email on monday to the police before I go abroad .
You then have one week to contemplate.
After my return on Tuesday 15. July I'll check my email and hope to find a satisfying answer which can only be finishing the deal.
In case I don't, I will continue my conversations with the police and everyone necessary to get what I won.

I don't want your book. I want the one I won.
And most of all I do not want to be duped.

Christian

P.S.: If things weren't that obvious. I wouldn't have started this here. Sorry anyway.

[George Hutchinson]

Hi all. Just to clarify here - Christian hasn't paid a penny/cent yet. But that's not the point. The issue here is that the little toe-rag in NZ is refusing to honour a legally binding contract.

PHILIP

[Suzi]

Hi Dan-

Yes sadly I admit that Alex and our 'Prophet' (aka A.J) are not one and the same....he/she/it got us all going though!!!

That's a lovely book though....shame it disappeared (Like The P )...

Good Luck though Christian!!

[Dan Norder]

The original Barnardo book on eBay (despite all the crazy ranting and raving about Jack the Ripper and Princess Diana in the listing, which the seller clearly hoped would hype the price) looked like something that would be a fine addition to anyone's bookshelf. I can't find another copy of that title on sale anywhere, so it is pretty rare. Chris Jaud apparently saw past the bizarre listing and wanted to own the book even without Barnardo being the Ripper. It's too bad the seller now refuses to sell at the price he agreed to when he listed it.

And it seems pretty clear to me that Alex and AJ Prophet are not related at all. Alex just showed up to defend what was basically a semantic point, and it got a little heated, which happens sometimes. I never saw Alex as pushing the book, but then I can also understand how people skimming the threads could be confused as one A name is arguing while the other A name is away from the boards. Based upon some comments by Alex earlier I have no doubt that he is a respectable non-kook with interest in the Ripper case, and in fact possibly one some of us would know if he gave his full name.

[Suzi]

Hi Bob,
I don't think there is any danger of this guy selling his book on the back of the 'unlawful killing' verdict because it was widely reported that this referred to the driving and not to some wild conspiracy. Also, if this so-called emerging author is going to attempt to link the Whitechapel killings to the death of Diana and Dodi he will very quickly be placed into the David Icke category and receive little but ridicule.

Hi Limehouse-
Exactly!!..'Emerging' author is probably a tad on the optimistic side....that suggests that it's going to emerge onto the author stage at some point as a beautiful butterfly!!!...Seriously unlikely! I guess though as to these 'writers' the Karens/Ickes etc etc- The fact that we're actually discussing (and disagreeing) about their offerings- is some form of flattery in their eyes!! -Oops better be careful what we say........if anything....because to be honest as to 'The Books' ...is there anything sensible/constructive to say !!... [Apart from (Good advice!)......the day you wake up and think.. Today I'm going to write my Magnus Opi....Roll over and get some well deserved zzzzzzzzzzzzzzs!

LOL

Good Luck Christian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Suz x

[Limehouse]

I am totally shocked, but not a little surprised, when Christian told of his troubles with this AJ fellow. I have known Christian for some time now and have always found him to be the perfect gentleman, and certainly not deserving of this shabby treatment.

AJ always seemed to me to be a complete bounder. I noticed that when people started asking him questions he quickly vanished. He still didn't reply to my question about the Paget Report.

I also think it’s totally unacceptable for this AJ character to use half the verdict from Diana’s inquest to somehow back up his ludicrous theories.

In stating that the jury returned a verdict of ‘unlawful killing’ he is no doubt hoping that people will think he’s on to something. However as anyone who has a transcript of the inquest will tell you the actual verdict was:

“the inquest into her death returned a verdict of unlawful killing due to the grossly negligent driving of Henri Paul and the paparazzi.”

However printing the truth might damage his sales somewhat. What value we therefore put on anything this person says must be left up to the individual to decide.

I think the board members gave him enough opportunity to present his case for examination, an offer he decided not to accept.

I expect the next we will hear from him will be a KFC like whining that we all ganged up on him!

Hi Bob,
I don't think there is any danger of this guy selling his book on the back of the 'unlawful killing' verdict because it was widely reported that this referred to the driving and not to some wild conspiracy. Also, if this so-called emerging author is going to attempt to link the Whitechapel killings to the death of Diana and Dodi he will very quickly be placed into the David Icke category and receive little but ridicule.

[Suzi]

Hi Suzi,

I got confused as Alex seems to be pressing the case (not very well I might add) for Barnardo. Why is he doing so and not Prophet? Not that I really care in the long run, I only jumped in without think because Christian is a friend of mine.

Rob XX

Christian is a great guy Rob! and like you I'm totally confused why Alex ...obviously wielding a shovel in his hole keeps digging!! Hmmmmmmmmm maybe he doth protest tooooooooooooooooooooo much!!

(All I said was that it was good enough for Jehovah!!!!!!!!!- Bang- kerbang -crash!!!!)

Suz xx

[Suzi]

Good one Bob!!

Now we have enough to chew over with the Diana /Dodi case without some SERIOUSLY tenuous link to Dr Barnardo...who's going to be next??? I tell you what...Gilbert and Sullivan's 'Yeomen of the Guard' which was the top of the Savoyard pops in 1888..their only so called 'tragedy'...could this be relevant- suddenly stopping the froth for an operetta where the jester Jack Point slumps insensible to the floor and dies at the end of the show as the curtains close!!!?? Could WSG be the Ripper??!!!!!!! Of course not....[way too witty!!]...to be honest it's just as likely as Dr (I saved the children) Barnardo!!

Heighdy! heighdy!
Misery me lackadaydee!
He sipped no sup, and he craved no crumb
As he sighed for the love of a layde!!

Suz xx