JtR FINAL Victim Body to be exhumed

[GUT]

Hello Sam,

Far from being the key that unlocks the case it could simply be that Mary chose to change her name so that no family member became aware that she was a prostitute. Similar to a porn star not using their real name.

c.d.

G'day cd

You seem to know an awful lot about the habits if Porn Stars

But I do agree about the possible reason for a change of name.

[John Wheat]

Well, strictly speaking it doesn't concern us since it is WWD's putative ancestor and he would be financing the exhumation. I believe his primary focus is his own family history, with the identity of JTR very much second.

I believe his primary focus is making money from selling his book.

[GUT]

I believe his primary focus is making money from selling his book.

Nothing unusual in that though.

[John Wheat]

Nothing unusual in that though.

To Gut

No but how many others have sold books on the stunt of trying to get someone exhumed?

Not many.

Cheers John

[GUT]

To Gut

No but how many others have sold books on the stunt of trying to get someone exhumed?

Not many.

Cheers John

Agreed.

If he can ID her great, but I continue to say he is putting the cart before the horse.

AND even if she is his Great Aunt does that prove his Great Uncle killed her, and even if it does, does that prove he killed the others?

To me the answers are NO - and NO.

[Barnaby]

G'day cd

You seem to know an awful lot about the habits if Porn Stars

But I do agree about the possible reason for a change of name.

Porn stars don't use their real names???

Next you all will argue that the Whitechapel murderer's name wasn't really Jack the Ripper. That this somehow was a "stage name" he used when communicating with the press.

[Pcdunn]

Porn stars don't use their real names???

Next you all will argue that the Whitechapel murderer's name wasn't really Jack the Ripper. That this somehow was a "stage name" he used when communicating with the press.

Then again, perhaps Jack the Ripper WAS one of the press. (Cue "Twilight Zone" music)

[GUT]

Porn stars don't use their real names???

Next you all will argue that the Whitechapel murderer's name wasn't really Jack the Ripper. That this somehow was a "stage name" he used when communicating with the press.

Nope Jack was his right name, as was Ripper, it was the middle name that threw them.

[Barnaby]

Nope Jack was his right name, as was Ripper, it was the middle name that threw them.

I'm furiously checking the 1890 census. Hello, best-seller.

[richardh]

Well Jack the Ripper and Winnie the Pooh have the same middle name. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Nope Jack was his right name, as was Ripper, it was the middle name that threw them.

[GUT]

Well Jack the Ripper and Winnie the Pooh have the same middle name. Coincidence? I don't think so.

And Attila the Hun and Alexander the Great.

I think we are onto something.

[Robert]

Jack was the definite article. Leather Apron was the economy pack. As to whether there was a 'Jack A Ripper,' this will be discussed indefinitely.

[packers stem]

If this turns out to be true then this would give us a crazy situation where the last two victims BOTH PRETENDED to be called Mary Kelly!!!!!!
I'm no statistician but the odds against this happening in a series of 5 murders must be astronomical as there are only 48 real Mary Kellys listed(between the ages of 25-35) in the whole of London on the 1891 census,not spitalfields or whitechapel but London in its entirity...odds a bit lower if it was any 2 from 5,but the last two???
This must be close to being lottery winning odds....still random then?

[Steadmund Brand]

And Attila the Hun and Alexander the Great.

I think we are onto something.

not to mention Kermit The Frog and Bozo The Clown


Steadmund The Brand

[Sam Flynn]

the odds against this happening in a series of 5 murders must be astronomical as there are only 48 real Mary Kellys listed (between the ages of 25-35) in the whole of London on the 1891 census,not spitalfields or whitechapel but London in its entirity

Out of interest, how many "John Smiths" were listed in the London 1891 census aged 25-35? John Smith is (reputedly) a common enough assumed name, so that might give us a benchmark.