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  • lynn cates
    Commisioner
    • Aug 2009
    • 13841

    #1

    Crime Waves

    Hello All. Crime waves? Sure.

    Here is a link to another ripper site. EXCELLENT article about Jack contained in it.

    Cheers.
    LC

  • Bridewell
    Commissioner
    • Apr 2011
    • 4039

    #2
    Interesting article, although I needed a magnifying glass to read it!
    I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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    • lynn cates
      Commisioner
      • Aug 2009
      • 13841

      #3
      not odd

      Hello Colin. Thanks.

      Perhaps I am NOT the only odd bird.

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • Cogidubnus
        Assistant Commissioner
        • Feb 2012
        • 3266

        #4
        Gawd it does strain the old peepers...a somewhat unusual slant on the WCMs though

        Cheers!

        Dave

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        • lynn cates
          Commisioner
          • Aug 2009
          • 13841

          #5
          plausible

          Hello Dave. Thanks.

          Unusual, but entirely plausible, I think.

          Cheers.
          LC

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          • PC Fitzroy-Toye
            Constable
            • Dec 2013
            • 82

            #6
            Lynn I guess your own theorem is that JTR was not just a creation of the papers but they also wrongly place the murders of many women to just one hand as did the police ,I guess this is part of the mystery, we in the main only have the reports and opinions of the minds of that time as are evidence and they are not always in accord ,so us like them have a scant thread to follow an little in the way of facts, I can see your reasoning as its a fine way to cover a murder by making it as another therefor leading the minds of the time to think of one killed an not the many but could it also be the work of one hand as those of the time thought?
            Last edited by PC Fitzroy-Toye; 02-02-2014, 03:04 PM.

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            • Graham
              Assistant Commissioner
              • Feb 2008
              • 3813

              #7
              Originally posted by PC Fitzroy-Toye View Post
              Lynn I guess your own theorem is that JTR was not just a creation of the papers but they also wrongly place the murders of many women to just one hand as did the police ,I guess this is part of the mystery, we in the main only have the reports and opinions of the minds of that time as are evidence and they are not always in accord ,so us like them have a scant thread to follow an little in the way of facts, I can see your reasoning as its a fine way to cover a murder by making it as another therefor leading the minds of the time to think of one killed an not the many but could it also be the work of one hand as those of the time thought?
              You what?

              G
              We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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              • lynn cates
                Commisioner
                • Aug 2009
                • 13841

                #8
                not bad

                Hello PCFT. Not bad. I think that Kate's killing was fairly well scripted.

                Cheers.
                LC

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                • PC Fitzroy-Toye
                  Constable
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 82

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Graham View Post
                  You what?

                  G
                  Hello G what do you not understand ? Your going to say all of it are you not!
                  Ho um yes I did put one killed sorry should be one killer.
                  Last edited by PC Fitzroy-Toye; 02-02-2014, 04:51 PM.

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                  • PC Fitzroy-Toye
                    Constable
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 82

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                    Hello PCFT. Not bad. I think that Kate's killing was fairly well scripted.

                    Cheers.
                    LC
                    Would you care to expand on that ?

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                    • lynn cates
                      Commisioner
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 13841

                      #11
                      the script

                      Hello PCFT. Thanks.

                      There seems to be a good bit of Kate's killing dependent on Annie's inquest and the news.

                      For example, her eyes were closed by a knife, possibly because the assailant thought there was something in all that talk about the eyes being able to retain an image of the killer.

                      Moreover, the killer needed to know Watkins's schedule and that he was going in reverse that night.

                      Cheers.
                      LC

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                      • PC Fitzroy-Toye
                        Constable
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 82

                        #12
                        So Lynn are you linking Chapmann and Eddowes but you are reserved about the others? or is it you consider Eddowes a copy due to knowledge gained via the press? As for the movement of the officer could the killer not of noticed the order of patrol not being the norm purely by observation .
                        Last edited by PC Fitzroy-Toye; 02-02-2014, 07:47 PM.

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                        • GUT
                          Commissioner
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 7841

                          #13
                          I've often wondered how frequently the beat would be walked in reverse?
                          G U T

                          There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                          • PC Fitzroy-Toye
                            Constable
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 82

                            #14
                            Originally posted by GUT View Post
                            I've often wondered how frequently the beat would be walked in reverse?
                            Not sure on that one GUT but the problem with a regular beat is your time frame on where your be on that beat dose not take much time to become know hence a reverse patrol may give you a chance to catch a crim out but if he's smart an waits it will become aparent to him what your up to and you edge is gone.
                            Last edited by PC Fitzroy-Toye; 02-02-2014, 08:01 PM.

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                            • GUT
                              Commissioner
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 7841

                              #15
                              G'Day PC FT

                              And of course if reversing it was done say every second night, ie clockwise one night anti clockwise the next the perpetrator would know in advance.
                              G U T

                              There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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