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  • #46
    Thanks GUT , I will consider MJK more closely......So we have the possibility of two uterus one kidney and maybe a heart as keepsakes, The human mind can contain a truly dark will,who ever penned the "from hell" struck a chord there.

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    • #47
      Nor do the list of locations of organ locations in the room.
      G U T

      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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      • #48
        G'Day PC Fitzroy-Toye

        Personally I'd say who ever dunit was "one sick puppy dog".
        G U T

        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
          Hello PCFT, GUT. I believe there is one news account which claims all organs are accounted for.

          Cheers.
          LC
          Muchly Lynn thought I could recall something in one of the papers about the heart, shame I got the details wrong!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by GUT View Post

            It is described as absent, but it does not appear in the list of organs found in the room and it is not mentioned in the inquest reports as having been examined. I am really not convinced f the absent meant absent from the body or absent from the room.
            Dr Bond lists the breasts and all the organs that were removed; uterus, kidneys, liver, intestines, and spleen, yet none of these are described as 'absent', even though they are all absent from the body, but not absent from the room.
            Only the heart was removed from the body and not found in the room, and only the heart is described as 'absent'.

            That in itself suggests the meaning of 'absent' in this context.
            Regards, Jon S.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by GUT View Post
              G'Day PC Fitzroy-Toye

              Personally I'd say who ever dunit was "one sick puppy dog".
              Yer he's like when you find something dead an rotten and can not but start poking it with a stick you know its going to be grim but your compelled to look and it becomes captivating.

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              • #52
                G'Day Jon

                I agree. As I said earlier there is if my memory isn't failing me yet again one report of all organs being accounted for. But that doesn't explain it being missing from the location of organs in the room, or no mention at inquest, nor as you say the description of being "absent".
                G U T

                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by GUT View Post
                  G'Day Jon

                  I agree. As I said earlier there is if my memory isn't failing me yet again one report of all organs being accounted for. But that doesn't explain it being missing from the location of organs in the room, or no mention at inquest, nor as you say the description of being "absent".
                  G'day sport.

                  Well, if I can offer a suggestion. I suspect the police or perhaps medical men did not betray the truth about the missing heart to the press.
                  They likely learned their lesson over the Lusk kidney fiasco, and did not wish to receive numerous boxed hearts in the mail

                  We do know that Phillips & Macdonald did return to Millers Court after the autopsy to sift the ashes in the fireplace. Any detectives could have sifted ashes if they were looking for material evidence.
                  So, I suspect this is why the medical men sifted the ashes, they were looking for something only they could identify, a missing human organ, the heart.
                  Last edited by Wickerman; 02-08-2014, 05:22 PM.
                  Regards, Jon S.

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                  • #54
                    G'Day Jon

                    Just reread the inquest and PM on MJK what you say makes perfect sense to me about the police learning a lesson from the "kidne".

                    And as you say why have Drs sift the ashes if not looking for something it would take a doctor to recognize? Normally I would expect ash sfting to be done by a grunt if looking for, lets say a weapon for example.
                    G U T

                    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                    • #55
                      Thanks for the clarity gents I will be keeping MJK as very likely one of J's the absent heart makes it a little more clear cut for me.

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                      • #56
                        G'Day PC

                        "Clear Cut"

                        Good one on Jacky ... ... ... ...
                        G U T

                        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                        • #57
                          In fact you could say it "ripped me up".
                          G U T

                          There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by GUT View Post
                            G'Day PC

                            "Clear Cut"

                            Good one on Jacky ... ... ... ...
                            I did wonder if someone was going to pick up on that

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by GUT View Post
                              In fact you could say it "ripped me up".
                              Nice!

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                              • #60
                                My aim is to please.
                                G U T

                                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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