Be not faithless, but believing.
Hello DLDW.
"but something about what happened there feels off."
Only if you refuse to accept the story on faith.
Cheers.
LC
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Hello Phil. Thanks.
""if the ripper killed Liz Stride between 12:45 and 1am with no one about, why did he not mutilate her"?"
Well, one possibility springs to mind.
But what is YOUR answer?
Cheers.
LC
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Originally posted by Digalittledeeperwatson View PostYou can beat a horse in water, but you can't make him think it.
My questions:
1. Did the Lusk kidney really come from Eddowes?
2. What is the exact wording, with misspellings intact, of the GSD?
3. Were any of the significant letters written by the killer? (i.e., the Lusk letter, the "Dear Boss" letter, and the "Saucy Jack" postcard.)
4. Did any of the victims know the killer? that is, if one had somehow survived, would she have been able to give his name to the police? --what I'm getting at, is that Ripper murders look more like stranger murders based on 20th century data on serial murder, and I think there's always been a presumption that is what they were, but I'm asking to know that for certain.
5. How religiously observant was Aaron Kosminski, and his family in general?
6. Did Caroline Maxwell really see MJK on the morning the body was found in Miller's Court?
Follow-ups:
to 1. If the kidney was not Eddowes', was it from some murder victim?
to 3. If not the killer, who wrote those three particular letters, and did the killer write any public letter? By "public," I mean to the police, the news office, a particular paper, or some government official, or some other type of non-personal addressee.
to 6. If Maxwell did not see Kelly, then was she mistaken, or deliberately lying?
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Hullo UkranianPhil!
All of the times given, except Dr. Blackwell's upon his arrival, are approximations. With no known corroboration between different witnesses times. And if it was "JTR" why should he linger after IS strolled on by. Also there was Pipe/Knifeman. A high risk scenario to attempt a mutilation in. Of course there is no corroboration for IS. I'm on the fence, but something about what happened there feels off. Or at least how it seems to go together does.
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so that means she was killed between 12:45 am and 1:00am.
If Diemschutz turnd into his yard at 1:00am and no one else was in the yard,
another question arises.
The ripper would have had 15 minutes to mutilate the body, so why did he run if he was NOT disturbed by Diemschutz?
Also charles Letchfords sister was standing outside her door at number 39 Berner st and saw or heard nothing unusual.
I Ask again: "if the ripper killed Liz stride between 12:45 and 1am with no one about, why did he not mutilate her"?
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Lave
Hello Phil.
If Liz were killed at 12.45, Lave would not have seen it, having gone back in at 12.40.
Cheers.
LC
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Sometime between Lave and Goldstein....at about 12:45...which is in accordance with both Schwartz and Doctor Blackwell...and Abraham Hoshberg and perhaps Spooner for that matter - and no I don't know why the nosy lady two doors down saw nothing...perhaps she only looked out enough to see Goldstein...and only listened enough to hear the coconut shells...in that respect she's pretty much a dead loss for either 12.45 or 1.00...
All the best
Dave
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Originally posted by DVV View PostThe Ripper was already gone when Diemshutz got there. He was never disturbed by Diemshutz.
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If Liz stride was murdered at 12:45am, or later why did mrs. Mortimer see no one leave the yard from the gates in Berner st, when she was standing at her door ?. And why did Leon Goldstein [the man mortimer seen with the black walking very fast up Berner st] not see anybody leave the club , or Joseph Lave who was in the yard at 12:40 getting a breath of fresh air?
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Originally posted by ukranianphil View Post1. If Israel Schwarts did indeed see Liz stride being murdered. at 12:45 am, what did the ripper do in dutfields yard for 15 minutes before he was disturbed by Diemschutz?
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1. If Israel Schwarts did indeed see Liz stride being murdered. at 12:45 am, what did the ripper do in dutfields yard for 15 minutes before he was disturbed by Diemschutz?
2. who was the young man and his sweetheart Fanny mortimer saw before and after the
murder; they were standing 20 feet away from Dutfields yard, yet saw nothing, according
to mrs. mortimer.
3. why was Israel schwarts not invited to the inquest if the police believed his evidence?
4. who was the couple James Brown saw in Fairclough street at 12:45; the woman was to reply: "no, not tonight, some other time" to the man she was with.
5. was Liz stride strangled?
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1) What brought Kosminski to the attention of the police?
2) The witness who identified Kosminski - what did he see?
3) Did anyone see the killer in Mitre Square?
4) Did Blotchy get into bed with Mary Kelly after finishing the beer?
5) Did Cutbush have drawings of women being 'laid out' and the genital region mutilated. In fact, anything on Cutbush's activities during the murderer's reign.
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Hi Simon.
Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostHi All,
I'd like just one question answered.
Why do so many so-called Ripperologists keep flogging dead horses?
Regards,
Simon
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not authorised
Hello Jeff. Thanks.
Actually, the "Henry James" to whom I refer was a wandering lunatic--not the author.
Cheers.
LC
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Originally posted by Barnaby View Post
I suppose that's a start. And if James Kelly turns out to have been in Whitechapel on said dates, I'd put my money on him as the culprit.
Mike
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The original question stipulated that we cannot ask the identity of Jack the Ripper. I'm wondering how many questions would be needed to be able to learn sufficient information to be able to make a very good guess at his identity. I suppose one strategy would be to start with:
1. Which of the Whitechapel murder victims were killed by the same individual?
2. Which of the contemporary and modern suspects were actually in Whitechapel on all of the dates relevant to the answer in #1?
I suppose that's a start. And if James Kelly turns out to have been in Whitechapel on said dates, I'd put my money on him as the culprit.
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