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  • Roy Corduroy
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    And a good night to you, Lynn.

    I recently read a book about Russia in that era. And the rumor that Father Gapon might speak at the rally (many posts ago) was because he was in Stepney at the time. Here is Dunstan House from this Flickr Site. (click)

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  • mariab
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    I'll ask around about Mrs. Tyler's father.
    As for the SB ledgers entry, I wish we could identify more names from that entry pertaining to other cases (besides the alleged Mr Doughty), so that we could narrow it down chronologically.

    To Roy Cordyroy:
    The part that has gotten my interest is that Lynn established that the Okhrana used to hire local detective agencies for their anti-socialist agenda. It's been established that “private detective“ Charles Le Grand put his foot firmly into the Berner Street investigation, manipulating witnesses and evidence, plus there are people (like Tom Wescott) who are suspicious that the Lusk kidney was a hoax generated by Joseph Aarons and Le Grand (to advertize the WVC).

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  • lynn cates
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    Pilenas

    Hello Roy. Spies R Us is not far off. Notice my Palmer (Pilenas) chap above. He was from Krakow and, when the police chief was killed by socialists, he tried to move into the void (yup, Krakow was a super-friendly-to-the-Tsar-town). Later, he turns up working in London as a penetration agent for Rachkovski. Finally, he gets a spy gig in the colonies.

    Once a spy, always a spy.

    Now, I must go and do what old chaps do best. Good night.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Roy Corduroy
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    Originally posted by mariab View Post
    I guess it comes under the umbrella of spy activity.
    Sort of a Spys R Us outlet. I still think Jack had the syph. Or at least the clap.

    Roy

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  • lynn cates
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    daughter

    Hello Maria. I refer to the Chief Inspector's daughter. The SB ledger entry is still an enigma.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • mariab
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    I bet Neil and Rob might know the answer. Perhaps we could chat them up?
    Lynn, are you referring to Mrs Tyler's Scotland Yard Chief Inspector father, or to the Catherine Kelly/John Kelly entry in the Special Branch ledgers? I was talking to Rob about the latter just a few days ago. I can ask him about the former. (Tomorrow, as I'm about to go back to sleep.)

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  • mariab
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Frankly my dear . . . .
    Yes, that one got quoted a lot in the thread in question.
    (I don't guess you could spare $300? I got a new green dress on, made from some velvet curtains.)

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  • lynn cates
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    oops

    Hello Maria. Just saw your other post and question. I bet Neil and Rob might know the answer. Perhaps we could chat them up?

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    I don't give a . . .

    Hello Maria. Frankly my dear . . . .

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • mariab
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Tomorrow is another day.
    He he, Lynn, you should totally post this in the Most famous film quotes thread.

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  • mariab
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    So, who was Mrs Tyler's Scotland Yard Chief Inspector father?
    Careful, Lynn, the Catherine Kelly/John Kelly entry in the Special Branch ledgers doesn't necessarily lead to Eddowes, at least not at this point! As for "Mr Doughty", I'm so sorry, but what I'm reading is “Mc Dogherty“-something. I've even had the image cleaned up at PhotoShop.

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  • lynn cates
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    hope

    Hello Maria. Hang in there. Tomorrow is another day. Perhaps it will work then.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • mariab
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Try typing in 437. I could access it fine.
    I did type “page 437“, and “Jenkinson“. Half a dozen times. It shows until p. 432, not further. It can be different tomorrow, as availability changes often with amazon and GoogleBooks.

    Thank you so much again for Rocker. It appears that being off one's rocker is mutually exclusive (co-dependent?) between you and myself nowadays.

    Roy Cordyroy wrote:
    I dont' see the relationship of this to Kaufman, the thread subject, the socialists, the anti-socials, etc. This is about Irish Nationalism. Unless it all comes under the umbrella of dirty tricks.

    I guess it comes under the umbrella of spy activity.
    Last edited by mariab; 01-13-2011, 02:50 AM.

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  • lynn cates
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    human resources

    Hello Roy. Your observation about Mata Hari is dead on target. Turns out Mrs. T is a Mrs. Tyler--I believe.

    My point is that Jenkinson had many ladies working for him as spies (as witness the book). Now, after the end of 1886 when he was sacked, are we to imagine that these ladies went back to selling violets for buttonholes? My guess (based in part on the right identification of the SB ledger with Kate's name) is that some of them at least drifted to where the action was--whether Special Branch and their new chief, or else the new kid in town (1888). Who also, by the way, was based in Paris--Pyotr Rachkovski. We know that he and Milevsky preferred to hire former SY people.

    So I think of Jenkinson as a bit of a human resources chap. Pity he burned all his records.

    Thanks for the photo.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Last edited by lynn cates; 01-13-2011, 02:49 AM.

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  • lynn cates
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    Rocker

    Hello Maria. Delighted to hear that. At least one of us is NOT off his Rocker!

    Try typing in 437. I could access it fine.

    Cheers.
    LC

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