Kaufmann

[Roy Corduroy]

The Author

2) Who are the lady spies whom Jenkinson is using?

Lynn, my GoogBooks is up and running. "Jenkinson's corp of female detectives or spies, one masquerading as illegitimate daughter of prince. Then the Lady Dynamiter, a Mrs. T who was the daughter of a noted Scotland Yard Chief Inspector."

I dont' see the relationship of this to Kaufman, the thread subject, the socialists, the anti-socials, etc. This is about Irish Nationalism. Spell it out please, Lynn.

Your ob serv,
Roy

[mariab]

Sorry, Lynn. GoogleBooks doesn't let me read p. 437 (only up to p. 432). So why was Jenkinson in Paris?
By the way, your Rocker just arrived. Thank you so much. I'll have a look at it when things get a bit easier.

[lynn cates]

lady spies

Hello All. And whilst we are talking of spies, here is an interesting read by a chap who knew a good deal of spymaster Jenkinson's methodology.

2 interesting questions.

1) Why is Jenkinson in Paris?

2) Who are the lady spies whom Jenkinson is using?

Most interesting is on p 437.

http://books.google.com/books?id=tZJnAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=fall+feudalism+ireland&hl=en&ei=FlkuTbTbOsH6lweb1diNDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=book-preview-link&resnum=1&ved=0CCYQuwUwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

old spies never die

Hello All. Here is a snippet from The Gettysburg Times, April 7, 1934. The Palmer in the last paragraph is Rachkovski's "Casimir Pilenas."

Once a spy . . . .

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

Rachkovski

Hello All. Here is a snippet on Rachkovsky from the Melbourne Argus, February 16, 1914.

Kindly donated by Simon Wood.

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Yes. The Scots are the men that won't be paying for nothing.

[lynn cates]

race

Hello Maria. I have heard before about the training tactic you suggest. Interesting.

"I can assure you that many have taken me for a real French or a real American, possibly even on the same day!"

That can happen. Of course, if any doubt my race, there is an acid test: just ask how I like to spend money. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

I fully agree about the difficulty of total assimilation (although I can assure you that many have taken me for a real French or a real American, possibly even on the same day! ;-))
Lynn Cates wrote:
In fact, total assimilation is well nigh impossible.
That's why I'm proposing you should see Salt, where Russian kids are brought up American to become future infiltration agents. Believe me, Lynn, this motion picture covers every single aspect of our Okhrana discussion...

[lynn cates]

subtle difference

Hello Maria. Good answer. Also, it is unlikely that a Russian would be able to assimilate English culture. In fact, total assimilation is well nigh impossible.

Recall how Poirot figured that a woman was American and not English? She had said, "I will make a long distance call to my lawyer." He then observed that, "Were she English, it would be a trunk call to my solicitor."

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Hello Lynn,
I'm afraid I don't recall Dr. No that well. Is that the one with Ursula Andress? Salt contains infiltration, double agents, provocation, and the Russian intelligent service. And lots of Russian speak.

Lynn Cates wrote:
Why did the Okhrana use locals for penetration agents and why did they use local detective agencies for investigation?
For the same reason they employed independant assassins and agents provocateurs. Not so much for economy of effort, as for covering their butt. They favored covered operations, forgery, manipulations, and provocation to create political destabilization in other countries than in Russia. For instance in 1890 in Paris Harting organized a team of bombthrowers and then betrayed them to the Paris police. The heavily publicized arrests persuaded the French of the dangers posed by anarchism.
As a tactic it's not too different from what PI Le Grand did, when he planted evidence and pretended uncovering it to destabilize the London Police. Did he learn from the Okhrana? ;-)

[lynn cates]

penetration agent

Hello All. Here is some background on the Okhrana penetration agent in London. He is mentioned at the end of teh article.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pl&u=http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Zofia_Onufrowicz-P%25C5%2582oska&ei=I9MhTeXdKIT58Aah_Ij8DQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCUQ7gEwAjgK&prev=/search%3Fq%3DBoleslaw%2BMalankiewicz%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DqrQ%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Ds%26prmd%3Divns

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

cloak and dagger

Hello Maria. I hope this does not seem cloak and dagger--nothing could be further from my intentions.

In many ways, "Dr. No" is my favourite of the spy genre. Why? Because it is the most realistic--especially at first. Notice, people are sending reports over short wave radios, printouts are coming up--spying is just a matter of A keeping tabs on B whilst B keeps tabs on A.

Now, here's a question for you. Why did the Okhrana use locals for penetration agents and why did they use local detective agencies for investigation?

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Hello Lynn,
thank you for clarifying. I was briefly confused as there was no quote of Milevski in the very interesting article you linked in your post #215.
As for infiltration agents, I almost not dare remind you that in that dream I recently had that was precisely what you were asking me to do – infiltrate, plus learn Russian. And I was doing it. By the by, Lynn, if you haven't yet seen Salt with Angelina Jolie, please, would you consider go seeing it? It's the exact same context...!

[lynn cates]

Milevski

Hello Maria. No, they are not the same. Milevski was in charge of staffing external agents. He hired "John" and "Murphy."

Butterworth considers it likely that these hires were from the local ex-police. (He argues by analogy with Milevski's hiring precedents in Paris.) He notes also that the files on "John" contain an air of secrecy which connotes--to Butterworth's mind, at least--that "John" was a moonlighting Met officer.

Malankievich (Miklaszewski) was Milevski's penetration agent amongst the Anarchists.

As Inspector Sidney Wang (Peter Sellers) once observed: "Is confusing."

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Lynn, pertaining to the article linked in your post #215, I went through it twice and it doesn't seem to mention Milevski. He's not the same person an Miklaszewski? (?) Most fascinating I found the financial manipulation (not to mention the manipulation for arms sales), with the transfer of billions of gold rubles in Imperial Russian bonds out of the hands of the Berlin banks and onto the Paris Bourse in 1889, where French bankers promised to consolidate the Czar's enormous external debts (obviously with no success).