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  • #61
    Originally posted by mariab View Post
    Debra A. wrote:
    I presume that in order for the dead men's friends to be aware of his views, the letters would have been published.

    It's funny, that's precisely what I was wondering about too, if Bachert's letters were indeed published, or maybe if he was just talking about this publicly, and thus gained the attention of the people who beat him up. If they've been published, we would manage to find them, right?
    Hi Maria, Bachert wasn't beaten up, he just claimed that the victims friends were after him. he says himself that the threats came after he wrote to the papers, so them being published somewhere seems the simplest answer, they maybe just haven't turned up yet.

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    • #62
      Or he made the whole thing up and there were no letters at all? This is Bachert we're talking about, and most of what the man said was nonsense.

      Yours truly,

      Tom Wescott

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      • #63
        Yeah, he was a big fantasist that's for sure.

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        • #64
          Debra A wrote:
          Hi Maria, Bachert wasn't beaten up, he just claimed that the victims friends were after him. he says himself that the threats came after he wrote to the papers, so them being published somewhere seems the simplest answer, they maybe just haven't turned up yet.

          Hi Debra,
          stupidly I confused the Joseph Aarons episode (where he was attacked) with Bachert having felt/been threatened by the victim's friends. I completely agree that Bachert's letters most probably were published, and I hope that you or Lynn locate them soon.
          Could you name to me any socialist/anarchist newpapers besides The Commonweal and Der Arbeter Fraint?
          Best regards,
          Maria

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          • #65
            Originally posted by mariab View Post
            [B]Could you name to me any socialist/anarchist newpapers besides The Commonweal and Der Arbeter Fraint?
            Not off the top of my head, Maria. I would have to read up on it.

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            • #66
              Tom Wescott wrote:
              Or he made the whole thing up and there were no letters at all? This is Bachert we're talking about, and most of what the man said was nonsense.

              A totally plausible possibility. At any rate this is not too hard to research, since there's a finite number of Victorian newspapers to go through.
              What I'm trying to figure out is, how will I precede with my Schwartz orator? He's not as big a player so as to expect him to have been mentioned in the mainstream press. The most obvious possibilities are Der Arbeter Fraint and The Jewish Standard (the latter for a possible negative reference), since they concentrated on Jewish matters.
              Best regards,
              Maria

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              • #67
                no hallucination

                Hello Tom.

                "I produced the source and the text for a newspaper article showing that the WVC went around to the socialist clubs of the east end to recruit their patrolmen."

                Ah! So I'm not hallucinating. This is good to know. For some time I was stumped regarding anarchists hiring out to "the other side."

                But, then again, Inspector Melville, under oath, testified that he had paid MANY anarchists.

                Thanks.

                Cheers.
                LC

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                • #68
                  Lord Rothschild

                  Hello Maria. Ongoing research about sweaters is precisely correct. Owing to those files which Debs has so generously provided, I am able to listen to witness after witness blast the sweating system and discuss a trade union. One witness even spoke of the inevitability of socialism in conjunction with sweating and given no proper English style union.

                  But, behold! the good Lord Rothschild himself (who sat on the committee) seems to have a stake in the proceedings as he is supporting exactly such a union.

                  Of course, he is one of the highest in the land.

                  Cheers.
                  LC
                  Attached Files

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                  • #69
                    anarchist papers

                    Hello Maria. Send me an email and I can get you a huge list of anarchist and socialist paper names.

                    Cheers.
                    LC

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                    • #70
                      letters

                      Hello Debs. Well, the killings took place July 30 and his "problem" stemmed from September. That makes August a likely month.

                      I don't see a good many letters in Lloyd's but I see a great many in the Star. Hmmm.

                      Thanks.

                      Cheers.
                      LC

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                      • #71
                        Hello Lynn.
                        On which particular committee was Lord Rothschild sitting?

                        Lynn Cates wrote:
                        Hello Maria. Send me an email and I can get you a huge list of anarchist and socialist paper names.

                        Thank you SOOO very much. Lynn, are you getting all shy all of a sudden, or what's up? You most certainly have my email address.
                        (Later on tonight I'll email Rob Clack the rest of the French spy reports on London anarchism, for poor Rob to clean up the pictures. Then we'll post them in your Kaufmann thread, on which I finally came around to post the translations.)
                        Best regards,
                        Maria

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                        • #72
                          testing

                          Hello Maria. He was on the committee to inquire into the sweating system.

                          Email. Indeed. But this was a test. You might have thought better and changed your mind. But now I see that you are serious, er, I mean wish to be seriously bored.

                          Cheers.
                          LC

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                          • #73
                            Lynn Cates wrote:
                            But this was a test. You might have thought better and changed your mind. But now I see that you are serious, er, I mean wish to be seriously bored.

                            Pertaining to research, I don't change my mind about what I promise to do and I'm as serious as a .38 pointed across from your face.
                            No bored. I need to prepare a kinda tricky proposal for a conference but I'm leaving it for tomorrow, so Ripperology it can be tonight. As I'm snowed in, in 6'' of lovely, fat fresh pow. Actually snuggled in under a 4'' lovely, fat synthetic furry blanket which looks like a leopard's skin. (I can't believe I've just posted this for the entire free world to see..)
                            Best regards,
                            Maria

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                            • #74
                              OK

                              Hello Maria. Names posted to Kaufmann thread.

                              Cheers.
                              LC

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                              • #75
                                Bump up
                                "Great minds, don't think alike"

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