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  • #31
    Lynn Cates wrote:
    Now, if you recall from the other thread I started a while back, there was interplay between the upper strata of Anglo Jewry and the WVC.

    Lynn, are you referring to your Kaufmann thread now?

    Lynn Cates wrote:
    Hello (again) Maria. Hmm, interesting. I must check out the Jewish Standard again. They usually have articles aimed at their opponents, especially the anarchists.

    It might have been The Jewish Standard or Der Arbeter Fraint if it was easily available to Tom.
    Lynn, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it out loud: Jules Hansen was a prominent Danish political journalist in Paris who helped introduce Pịtr Rachkovsky to French government circles. Christian Nelson's (?) (Le Grand's) father MIGHT have been a Danish diplomat, according to some newspapers. Danish diplomats traditionally went to Paris, since even the time before the French Revolution. (Ever heard of Marie-Antoinette's not so secret lover, lieutenant Felsen, who even helped the king's family escape to Varennes in June 1791?) I'll most certainly have a look around in Paris for any traces of connections. And before getting to Paris I intend to research Le Grand in the equivalent of Danish ancestry.com (if anything like this exists) with the help of our friend Fisherman, who's incidentally coming to Berlin.
    Best regards,
    Maria

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    • #32
      Lynn Cates wrote:
      there was interplay between the upper strata of Anglo Jewry and the WVC. So, suddenly, the chaps on the WVC are of great interest to me.

      Actually, Tom insinuated that there might have been interplay between the IWME and the WVC (albeit without clarifying where he got his info, possibly from the newspapers?) in his Ripper Notes #25 article. I got some stuff to read up from The ultimate pertaining to this (with the info very kindly provided by Rob Clack). I might look it up tonight.
      And I was hoping to prepare a very tricky proposal for a conference tonight... Maybe I can do both... (The proposal will be a bit of a job, while Ripperology is play.)
      Best regards,
      Maria

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      • #33
        Lynn,
        pertaining to your newspaper clipping in your post #15, did perjury committed/suspected by policemen (from the H division) routinely make it to parliament, with ex cabinet ministers getting involved?! Or might this pertain to Fenianism?
        Best regards,
        Maria

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        • #34
          errata

          Hello Maria. No, not the Kaufman thread--the Silver one.

          Thanks for the information on Rachkovski. That is PRECISELY the kind of item I seek. He likely required the same in London.

          I think that some members of the WVC are up to their glutei maximi in this episode.

          Cheers.
          LC

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          • #35
            cops

            Hello (again) Maria.

            "did perjury committed/suspected by policemen (from the H division) routinely make it to parliament, with ex cabinet ministers getting involved?!"

            I should think not. The reference has me puzzled as well. The papers are full of allegations of police misbehaviour, but I cannot recall a single one that was not dismissed in court. I think I even recall one where the accuser apologised.

            Cheers.
            LC

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            • #36
              Lynn,

              Did I ever send you 'Bachert on Berner Street'? It's an unpublished essay of mine.

              Yours truly,

              Tom Wescott

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              • #37
                Lynn Cates wrote:
                Thanks for the information on Rachkovski. That is PRECISELY the kind of item I seek. He likely required the same in London.

                Unfortunately there was NO information whatsoever in the Paris Archives Nationales about Rachkovsky. Which makes sense, since the French spy reports were about anarchists, not tsarists. (Still there are another 15 boxes to go through...)

                Lynn Cates wrote:
                quote Maria:
                "did perjury committed/suspected by policemen (from the H division) routinely make it to parliament, with ex cabinet ministers getting involved?!"
                I should think not. The reference has me puzzled as well. The papers are full of allegations of police misbehaviour, but I cannot recall a single one that was not dismissed in court. I think I even recall one where the accuser apologised.

                I bet Debra Arif might have a notion of how to research this further. SPE would know too, of course.
                Actually I've never done this before, researching together with others. Generally I do my stuff and guard my turf, then report back to my bosses. I think I like team work (especially with you), that is, when it's not my immediate line of work.
                Best regards,
                Maria

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                • #38
                  Bachert

                  Hello Tom. No, but my curiosity is piqued.

                  Cheers.
                  LC

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                  • #39
                    replies

                    Hello Maria.

                    "the French spy reports were about anarchists, not tsarists."

                    Quite so.

                    "Debra Arif might have a notion of how to research this further. SPE would know too, of course."

                    Yes, Debs might know as well as Norma Buddle. I don't think Mr. Evans wishes to be disturbed just now--perhaps later.

                    "I think I like team work"

                    Well, I think things work more smoothly in that way.

                    Cheers.
                    LC

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                    • #40
                      Lynn Cates wrote:
                      I don't think Mr. Evans wishes to be disturbed just now--perhaps later.

                      Completely with you on this.

                      Lynn Cates wrote:
                      Quote Maria:
                      "I think I like team work"
                      Well, I think things work more smoothly in that way.

                      Actually it's the opposite. I think it only works because you're older and established. With someone my age it would unavoidably turn into power play. (Or maybe not, because it works so well with Rob Clack too, but Rob is SOOO up there in Ripperology, that any notion of competing against him would be as ludicrous as hell.)
                      Best regards,
                      Maria

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                      • #41
                        addendum

                        Hello Tom and Maria. I forgot to mention that, near the beginning of the "sweater inquiry" a witness remarked that such a system as sweating led to socialism. He then held up a socialist paper described as German but written in Hebrew characters and called Judesche (Yiddish). The gentleman had it translated and said it was "The Working Man's Friend,"--press located somewhere on Commercial rd. (sic)

                        Cheers.
                        LC

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                        • #42
                          Lynn Cates wrote:
                          He then held up a socialist paper described as German but written in Hebrew characters and called Judesche (Yiddish). The gentleman had it translated and said it was "The Working Man's Friend,"--press located somewhere on Commercial rd. (sic)

                          Cool. Der Arbeter Fraint is mentioned at least 3 times in the French spy reports I've located. I hope to manage to post the translations in your Kaufmann thread tonight, Lynn, before conking out. But first I need a snack, and I have 2 musicological matters to take care of ASAP.
                          Best regards,
                          Maria

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                          • #43
                            Der Arbeter Fraint

                            Hello Maria. 3 times. Really? I don't recall your mentioning that before.

                            Cheers.
                            LC

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                            • #44
                              Bachert in his cups

                              Hello All. Debs Arif has kindly provided the following bit of quasi-humour relating to Bachert.

                              Cheers.
                              LC
                              Attached Files

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                              • #45
                                Lewis Lyons

                                Hello All. Debs also reminds me that there was a bit of bad blood between Bachert and Lewis Lyons the Socialist.

                                Cheers.
                                LC

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