Albert Bachert

[lynn cates]

Murder pt 1

Hello All. Here, at last, is the story about the Hargan murder--pt 1.

It is from Lloyd's, first week of August, 1890.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

Murder, Pt 2

Hello All. Pt 2.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

Coda

Hello All. Coda.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

Hargan

Hello All. Here is a blurb about Walter Hargan.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

background

Hello All. And finally, his background.

Cheers.
LC

[Debra A]

Thanks for posting these articles on the Kingsland murder, Lynn.
I have been looking for the actual letter(s) on this subject, written by Bachert and printed in a newspaper, without success so far.
If anyone else has them or is able to find them I would be interested in seeing them.

[lynn cates]

dates

Hello Debs. Thanks.

Do you have either the paper or approximate dates of the letter/s? If it's Lloyd's the Echo or the Guardian, I can help.

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Debs wrote:
I have been looking for the actual letter(s) on this subject, written by Bachert and printed in a newspaper, without success so far.
If anyone else has them or is able to find them I would be interested in seeing them.
That's precisely what I too was wondering about.
On another matter, has it perhaps been established by now if Bachert was already a WVC member back in 1888, when the WVC was created? Or did he just turn up in 1889?

[mariab]

If anyone's interested, I've finally found a minute to post translations for French secret police reports on Whitechapel anarchist and Russian revolutionary activity in Lynn Cates' Kaufmann thread. I'll be posting a few more reports in the coming days (as long as Rob Clack cleans up a bit my crappy photos, courtesy of a cheap digital camera).

Lynn Cates wrote:
Hello Maria. 3 times. Really? I don't recall your mentioning that before.
I've just posted a translation for the first mentioning of Der Arbeter Fraint in the French spy reports. With some hilariously erroneous information. Sloppy French spys...

[Tom_Wescott]

Actually, Tom insinuated that there might have been interplay between the IWME and the WVC (albeit without clarifying where he got his info, possibly from the newspapers?) in his Ripper Notes #25 article.

It's been quite some time since I read that article in full, but I'm pretty sure I more than insinuated. I think I produced the source and the text for a newspaper article showing that the WVC went around to the socialist clubs of the east end to recruit their patrolmen. It's also well known that the WVC spent a great deal of time in Mile End Road, near Joseph Aarons' club. So we have the WVC going to the IWEC and the IWEC on the same street as the WVC. NOTE: The article does not state the the vigilance committee went specifically to the Berner Street club, but as it was the largest and most well-known socialist club in the area, and was only a mile from Aaron's pub, I think it would be quite a leap to assume they didn't.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[mariab]

I happened to read the Ripper Notes #25 article fairly recently, on the plane from Greece to Berlin (I think it was). It now spots not only (pink!) highlighting, but also café au lait stains from Paris and butter stains from the plane. And as I'm in Berlin right now, I happen to have the article right here by me.
Tom Wescott wrote:
I think I produced the source and the text for a newspaper article showing that the WVC went around to the socialist clubs of the east end to recruit their patrolmen. It's also well known that the WVC spent a great deal of time in Mile End Road, near Joseph Aarons' club.
Yes, you most definitely quoted a Daily Telegraph report and Aarons' The Crown Tavern at 74 Mile-End Road.
Your insinuation which happens to intrigue me the most is
quote Ripper Notes #25 p. 14-15:
“As the WVC was soliciting support from the working mens' clubs of the East End, it seems reasonable to assume (...) and that they possibly would even have spoken at one of the Club's meetings in the weeks before Stride's murder. Perhaps evidence of this, and how the WVC was received by club members, will be discovered in the near future, as research is ongoing.“
Research is ongoing indeed. Lynn Cates is having Der Arbeter Fraint issues translated by someone I provided in Chicago, while he's (Lynn) systematically going through sweater files most generously provided by Debra Arif. And I've located a recurring reference to a Schwartz as a Yiddish/Polish/Hungarian Whitechapel anarchist orator in French spy reports from the early 1900s. I was hoping that Lynn or Tom or Debra might help establish a list of socialist and anarchist-friendly London newspapers, so that I can research this Schwartz orator. The only such papers I'm aware of are Der Arbeter Fraint and The Commonweal. And I'm SO pissed at the sloppy French spies for not having included first names in their reports.

Tom Wescott wrote:
The article does not state the the vigilance committee went specifically to the Berner Street club, but as it was the largest and most well-known socialist club in the area, and was only a mile from Aaron's pub, I think it would be quite a leap to assume they didn't.
I have to confess I didn't even consider the thought of OTHER IWEC existing besides the one on Berner Street. Newbie habits to shed off...

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Maria. IWEC was the only one of that particular name in London, but there were other socialist and anarchist clubs in London, of course. That is what I was saying.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[mariab]

Tom Wescott wrote:
IWEC was the only one of that particular name in London, but there were other socialist and anarchist clubs in London, of course. That is what I was saying.
Oh, OK.
I'll need help establishing a list of socialist/anarchist Victorian London newspapers (besides The Commonweal) to research the Schwartz orator dude. On second thought, he might be also (negatively) mentioned in conservative newspapers. He doesn't sound much like a particularly important player, but multilingual (in East European languages).
If anyone's interested, I've posted the report/translation mentioning Schwartz in Lynn's Kaufmann thread. (http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=4566).

[Debra A]

Hello Debs. Thanks.

Do you have either the paper or approximate dates of the letter/s? If it's Lloyd's the Echo or the Guardian, I can help.

Cheers.
LC

I haven't, Lynn. All there is to go on is the Sept. article where he claims he has been harassed by friends of the murdered men after writing to the newspapers (plural) about the case. I presume that in order for the dead men's friends to be aware of his views, the letters would have been published.
Bachert's letters to the newspapers on the Whitechapel murders and other subjects are easily found in the British library newspaper databases but I've had no luck with anything to do with the Kingsland murders.

[mariab]

Debra A. wrote:
I presume that in order for the dead men's friends to be aware of his views, the letters would have been published.
It's funny, that's precisely what I was wondering about too, if Bachert's letters were indeed published, or maybe if he was just talking about this publicly, and thus gained the attention of the people who beat him up. If they've been published, we would manage to find them, right?