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Hello all,
I have been using some time listening, once again to various podcasts. I listened to the podcast you mentioned Archaic, and in that podcast, Robert mentioned one thing that I had previously missed but caught my ear this time around, namely..
The photgraphs that were printed in The Diary of Jack the Ripper. Here the photographs are shown in the condition as sent in in 1987, namely on cardboard background with each victim labled.
I looked carefully at these pictures, and noticed that on the top of each page, the words "WHITECHAPEL VICTIMS" is typed onto a strip of paper, adhered to the page. Also, the same with the names, place and date of each victim.
There are three pages of photographs printed in the book.
The first one of MJK, both photo's on same page, the 2nd page with Nicholls, Chapman and Eddowes, and the thrid page of Elizabeth Stride.
Now, the Kelly page... note the label above the photograph is "dirty, shaded or smudged"....yet the caption underneath is relatively clean. It looks like the typewriter print is different too..the capital "M" in "Millers Court" compared to the capital "M" in "VICTIMS".
On the 2nd page, the titled label above the photograph is again, quite clean, but the three names under each victim, , especially Chapman's is again smudged. And the label UNDER Eddowes is not only smaller, but altogether different. The typing is completely different compared to the other two labels under the photographs, , and the murder date is hand written, as is the name. With the Stride page, it seems the lpage is only half a page for just the one photo.
I am starting to wonder if..
a) The label under Kelly is a later addition
b) The label under Eddowes is a later addition or the original, vis a vis the other two labels,
c) That these photographs were actually not originally adhered to the cardboard and that it has been done later for display purposes.
I would like to see a picture of all the photographs taken in situe with the background cardboard. I know an Eddowes photo has since disappeared from Kew, but wondered if that microfilmed photo of Eddowes shows the background cardboard, with label underneath.
The pages themselves seem, and I say this tentatively, to have been torn from an album. Was that the case with the Bond Papers as well and the Crippen material?... as these photographs come from the same source in 1987.
The fact that this set of photographs, as Robert pointed out in the podcast, was first seen printed on cardboard in the dubious Diary, makes me wonder if the connection between them being sent in and the Diary itself is worth considering?
I welcome your comments.
best wishes
Phil
I have been using some time listening, once again to various podcasts. I listened to the podcast you mentioned Archaic, and in that podcast, Robert mentioned one thing that I had previously missed but caught my ear this time around, namely..
The photgraphs that were printed in The Diary of Jack the Ripper. Here the photographs are shown in the condition as sent in in 1987, namely on cardboard background with each victim labled.
I looked carefully at these pictures, and noticed that on the top of each page, the words "WHITECHAPEL VICTIMS" is typed onto a strip of paper, adhered to the page. Also, the same with the names, place and date of each victim.
There are three pages of photographs printed in the book.
The first one of MJK, both photo's on same page, the 2nd page with Nicholls, Chapman and Eddowes, and the thrid page of Elizabeth Stride.
Now, the Kelly page... note the label above the photograph is "dirty, shaded or smudged"....yet the caption underneath is relatively clean. It looks like the typewriter print is different too..the capital "M" in "Millers Court" compared to the capital "M" in "VICTIMS".
On the 2nd page, the titled label above the photograph is again, quite clean, but the three names under each victim, , especially Chapman's is again smudged. And the label UNDER Eddowes is not only smaller, but altogether different. The typing is completely different compared to the other two labels under the photographs, , and the murder date is hand written, as is the name. With the Stride page, it seems the lpage is only half a page for just the one photo.
I am starting to wonder if..
a) The label under Kelly is a later addition
b) The label under Eddowes is a later addition or the original, vis a vis the other two labels,
c) That these photographs were actually not originally adhered to the cardboard and that it has been done later for display purposes.
I would like to see a picture of all the photographs taken in situe with the background cardboard. I know an Eddowes photo has since disappeared from Kew, but wondered if that microfilmed photo of Eddowes shows the background cardboard, with label underneath.
The pages themselves seem, and I say this tentatively, to have been torn from an album. Was that the case with the Bond Papers as well and the Crippen material?... as these photographs come from the same source in 1987.
The fact that this set of photographs, as Robert pointed out in the podcast, was first seen printed on cardboard in the dubious Diary, makes me wonder if the connection between them being sent in and the Diary itself is worth considering?
I welcome your comments.
best wishes
Phil
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