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Old 06-23-2009, 11:46 PM
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Question Badminton, Anyone?

I wish we could rent the Abbey Mills Pumping Station for a cocktail party; that place is so cool it's almost surreal.

Rob, I'm curious about your pub called "Crown and Shuttle"- is that a reference to the game of Badminton,
or to something else?
The little thing you bat around in Badminton is usually called either the 'shuttle' or the 'shuttlecock', and the top part, that would have had feathers in the LVP, was called the 'crown'. (Ha ha; the built-in naughty word remover didn't like that 2nd Badminton term; you may have to use your imagination to fill in the asteriks!)

If that's really what it refers to, it seems an odd name for a pub, but I suppose there was a time when Badminton was trendy & exciting.

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Old 06-23-2009, 11:51 PM
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I'm curious about your pub called "Crown and Shuttle"
Even G.J. Monson-Fitzjohn can't help me out with this one, but I'd say that the "shuttle" part was much more likely to be alluding to weaving than badminton...

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Old 06-24-2009, 12:06 AM
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Wonderful 'corner of the road' Truman shots there Rob!

Love the Wellclose Sq pic too- Great posing!

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Hi Rob C,

More excellent photos. This is my favorite thread, and East london in the late 19th early 20th century is just so atmospheric, and beautiful. What I wouldnt give to be able to walk down streets like the one in this shot of Orchard Place Poplar. No movie could ever recreate it.

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Rob, I'm curious about your pub called "Crown and Shuttle"- is that a reference to the game of Badminton,
or to something else?
The little thing you bat around in Badminton is usually called either the 'shuttle' or the 'shuttlecock', and the top part, that would have had feathers in the LVP, was called the 'crown'. (Ha ha; the built-in naughty word remover didn't like that 2nd Badminton term; you may have to use your imagination to fill in the asteriks!)

If that's really what it refers to, it seems an odd name for a pub, but I suppose there was a time when Badminton was trendy & exciting.

Thanks, Archaic
I think Mark is right and that Shuttle is weaving term. Crown might be as well. The pub was in easy walking distance of Spitalfields.

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Old 06-24-2009, 12:18 AM
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Right chaps !!

Have done some 'ferreting' and have found out that 'The Crown and Shuttle' at 226 Shoreditch High Street was named after the Huguenot weavers use of such things in their weaving trade.

Also-over the bridge allegedly is a lane called Fleur de Lys St - another link to that Huguenot inheritance
Suz xx

Following that- have further ferreted that- 'The Crown' was a term for the density of the weave -and also for the long, heavier downward,long threads- before the shuttle drew the lighter,interweaving threads across to provide the weft, thus weaving the substance of the cloth.

Sorted!!!

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Thanks Suzi, I knew you had your uses

Fleur De Lis Street is just across the road and is where the Commercial Street Police Station is.

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Old 06-24-2009, 12:49 AM
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Crown and Shuttle (pointed building extreme right) from Fleur De Lis Street.

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Old 06-24-2009, 01:30 AM
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Thanks, everyone, and good work Suzi! Weaving terms make much more sense- it didn't really seem like the kind of neighborhood to be gripped by a Badminton craze. I knew the word 'shuttle' was a weaving term, but don't recall ever hearing 'crown' used as such.

However, I will now be prepared should the origin of Crown & Shuttle ever be a 'Final Jeopardy' question.

And Suzi, I'm glad you enjoyed the 'Nazi Ballet Lambeth Walk' video. Apparently when the Nazi hierarchy saw it they were outraged- maybe that's the real reason they bombed Lambeth?
I hope Hitler saw it. I think the Allies' great sense of humor actually helped us win the war.
Maybe Al Qaeda could learn the Lambeth Walk, too.

Best regards, Archaic
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Great photos. Do you mind if I ask what camera you are using. The colors and detail are excellent.


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Hi Rob I use a canon 5d mk11 with a 16-35mm lens. I then use camera raw to tweak the levels..
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I use a canon 5d mk11
Yipes. So there's no shortage of cash 'round your house, then.
Seriously, though, thanks for the info, sil. Obviously an excellent piece of equipment, but you still can't buy a talented photographer's eye.

(I seem to be on a rhyming jag tonight, so I think I'll go write a hit song.)
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