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Old 04-07-2009, 04:45 AM
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Default Ep. #44 The Chapman-Ripper Theory: w/ R Michael Gordon

Thread for discussion of Episode 44 of Rippercast

The Chapman-Ripper Theory: with R Michael Gordon

http://www.casebook.org/podcast/listen.html?id=87

Featuring the voices of R Michael Gordon, Steve Mateski, David Gates, Gareth Williams and Ben Holme.

Thanks to all who participated in this episode and everyone who supplied their comments and questions!

Thanks for listening!



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Correct link for the show...

http://www.casebook.org/podcast/listen.html?id=88

I forgot to add the artwork into the mp3 so had to re-up the entry...

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As many point out, it seems strange for Jack The Ripper to go from the incredibly bloody murders of Whitechapel to poisonings. But perhaps more strange is the idea that he would change his *victims* from relative strangers to his wives.

While I agree that you cannot bind him to the use of the knife of the killings, the question of mutilations comes up. The Ripper mutilated his victims and removed organs. In the later poisonings, did this happen? That behavior seems like one which would be consistent.

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Hi,
Intresting podcast very imformative, for those not aquainted with this fascinating character, however the question of age never arose, if i am not mistaken was not Chapman only twenty three years old in 1888?
Is there any reason to believe that the Whitechapel murderer was that young?
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As many point out, it seems strange for Jack The Ripper to go from the incredibly bloody murders of Whitechapel to poisonings. But perhaps more strange is the idea that he would change his *victims* from relative strangers to his wives.

While I agree that you cannot bind him to the use of the knife of the killings, the question of mutilations comes up. The Ripper mutilated his victims and removed organs. In the later poisonings, did this happen? That behavior seems like one which would be consistent.
Hi Steelysama,

If Chapman had killed three wives and mutilated all of them do you think that that might have aroused suspicion?

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Then there is the issue of the taking of the body parts from ripper victims which suggests a fetishistic motive not present in the Chapman poisonings. If the ripper did change his method of killing it is unlikely he would stop the fetishistic aspect of it which was probably one of his reasons for killing in the first place.

For that reason alone I would rule out Chapman, but he is clearly a very strong candidate on circumstantial evidence.
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For that reason alone I would rule out Chapman, but he is clearly a very strong candidate on circumstantial evidence.
Central to which is the question of whether he was actually in Whitechapel itself at the time of the murders. It's only by conjecture that we can place him there at all.
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if i am not mistaken was not Chapman only twenty three years old in 1888? Is there any reason to believe that the Whitechapel murderer was that young?
There's no reason to suppose that he wasn't, Rich. Many, if not most, crimes are perpetrated by men in their 20s or 30s.

Glad you enjoyed the podcast.
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Hi Gordon,Central to which is the question of whether he was actually in Whitechapel itself at the time of the murders. It's only by conjecture that we can place him there at all.
For that reason I think of him as being a little like James Kelly - sounds more possible than Druitt or Kosminsky, but not enough evidence.
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Hi Gordon,Central to which is the question of whether he was actually in Whitechapel itself at the time of the murders. It's only by conjecture that we can place him there at all.
Hi Sam,

Since Abberline, Godley and Neil all believed that Chapman could have been the Ripper, I would assume that that is one piece of information that they would have obtained and verifed before reaching any conclusion.

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