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Geoprofile of Jack the Ripper reveals Tabram and Nichols connection.
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Originally posted by MrBarnett View PostIf the cut to her lower part was deliberate - significant - then presumably the others were. A frenzy subsides eventually and the attacker is faced with the consequences of what he has done, including the possibility that his victim might survive the attack and ID him. That's the point at which he reaches for his second weapon and finishes the job.Bona fide canonical and then some.
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Originally posted by Jon Guy View PostBut Nichols only had the one stab too ?
About the same amount of attention to the sexual organs with both Nichols and Tabram.
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Originally posted by MrBarnett View PostA frenzy subsides eventually and the attacker is faced with the consequences of what he has done, including the possibility that his victim might survive the attack and ID him. That's the point at which he reaches for his second weapon and finishes the job.
He has learned that it`s safer for him to cut the throat rather than stab the body 39 times.
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Originally posted by Batman View PostMore likely is that his larger blade got stuck in her sternum, so he took the time to pull it out and then switched to a different blade.
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Originally posted by MrBarnett View PostIf so, then his first thought was above waist. Below it seems to have been an afterthought. A very odd lust murderer.
Nothing is odd in that respect beyond they type of crime that it is. Rare in other words. Not odd.Bona fide canonical and then some.
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Originally posted by MrBarnett View PostThe lack of attention to their sexual organs is indeed a problem for someone claiming that what conclusively links them is that they were both clearly 'lust murders'.
But there is no lack of attention to their sexual organs, Gary.
You can`t kill someone quickly and quietly by stabbing their sexual organs multiple times.
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Originally posted by Jon Guy View PostBut there is no lack of attention to their sexual organs, Gary.
You can`t kill someone quickly and quietly by stabbing their sexual organs multiple times.Last edited by MrBarnett; 10-30-2018, 07:22 AM.
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Originally posted by MrBarnett View PostCorrect. So you cover Tabram's upper body with 37 stabs ranging across her upper body/neck,
then finish (or previously having finished) her off with a more efficient weapon and only then get down to what you're really all about and make a small cut to her lower part/private part. (I don't think the word vagina is ever used, is it?) 38:1 is a lack of attention in my book.
Like the William Grant attack on Alice Graham, the lower wound may have been the first would inflicted. (Alice Grahams`s internal injury was reported in the press as an abdomen wound, until the Thames Police Court hearing when we find out it was an internal stab.
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Originally posted by Jon Guy View PostNot forgetting the stomach.. and the stomach, which was perfectly healthy, was penetrated in six places
Indeed. And we don't know whether her lower clothing was lifted to gain access to her stomach.
Do we know when the stab to her lower part occurred ?
Like the William Grant attack on Alice Graham, the lower wound may have been the first would inflicted. (Alice Grahams`s internal injury was reported in the press as an abdomen wound, until the Thames Police Court hearing when we find out it was an internal stab.
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Originally posted by Jon Guy View PostNot forgetting the stomach.. and the stomach, which was perfectly healthy, was penetrated in six placesKind regards, Sam Flynn
"Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)
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Originally posted by Batman View PostThe less complex explanation is one person, not many people. So even parsimony works and it can still explain all the evidence. Basically, there are no barriers preventing the one hand for being responsible for them all. What there appears to be is some doubtful accounts of who they were attacked by.
- Chronology fits in escalation model.
- Time fits.
- Location fits.
- Victimology fits.
- Absense of similar crimes even elsewhere in Whitechapel except for the Whitechapel murders.
- Smith and Tabram's offenders not caught.
- Smith and Tabram's offenders don't offend again.
- All involve attacks on their vaginas.
- Some investigators linked them to JtR and some of those were investigators of Smith's homicide.
I am sure there are more points but what this seems like is JtR at the start learning how to carry out his crimes. Diving straight into Nichols isn't something we even see by comparisons to modern day rippers. They usually have crimes going on before that which sometimes often don't strongly resemble the later crimes as they evolve MO and signature (50% of SKs experiment with these).Regards
Sir Herlock Sholmes.
“A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”
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Originally posted by Batman View PostI'll ask this again...
How many cuts did Eddowes have on the lower part of her body compared to the upper part of her body?Last edited by Sam Flynn; 10-30-2018, 07:53 AM.Kind regards, Sam Flynn
"Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)
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