The Long Island Ripper

[Indian Harry]

Seems like a white collar Gary Ridgeway if we discount his large physical stature. All the neighbors say he was quiet and agreeable, in short a good neighbor and family man. He is a contradiction though in more ways than the obvious. Professionally he is an architect and it is reported that he took up his late father's hobby of cabinet making. Then you look at his house and it's the smallest and roughest looking home in the whole neighborhood. He has his own architectural firm in Manhattan with 4 other employees including his daughter. His niche seems to be patiently plowing through the red tape involved in the New York building code rather than amassing a portfolio of prestige projects. The other notable thing reported is that at one point he was behind in income tax to the tune of $400,000. So he has measurable signs of success but also enough turmoil and troubles that could have acted as stressors. Of course by now I know that serial killers kind of blend into the background and come from all walks of life, but I certainly wasn't expecting the culprit to be a Manhatten architect.

[Ally]

I watched the press conference and holy **** was the DA a self-congratulatory blowhard. If he's actually the one trying the case it's going to be a miserable slog to watch.

[Abby Normal]

Suspect Arrested in Serial Killings of Women Near Gilgo Beach https://nyti.ms/3OeW1PC

More details on the arrest of an architect who lived on Long Island. The possible conclusion to a long unsolved string of murders.

wow!!!

[Pcdunn]

Suspect Arrested in Serial Killings of Women Near Gilgo Beach https://nyti.ms/3OeW1PC

More details on the arrest of an architect who lived on Long Island. The possible conclusion to a long unsolved string of murders.

[jason_c]

An arrest has been made. Let's hope this is the actual perp.

https://nypost.com/2023/07/14/gilgo-beach-lisk-serial-killings-suspect-in-police-custody-report/

[curious]

I've not really followed this lately, but did read a bit about Bittrolff here after running across this story. So, if a prosecutor has named him as a suspect, there you are. But they still need to be sure all "their Ts are crossed and I's dotted," "all their ducks are in a row" and however many other cliches I can find to say "tie up all the loose ends". Since the killings have ceased, it does seem they likely have him.

[Abby Normal]

yup. but probably the former. john Bittrolff is in jail for the murder of two prositutes who were also dismembered and found alongside a road in LI. they eventually traced back to him through dna. these were probably his first kills and then the lisk started to make more of an attempt to hide the remains after rhese were discovered.

bittrolff lived in manorville LI where two definite lisk victims were found, the prosecuter said he is an official suspect in at least one lisk murder, there is a personal connection between one of bittrolfs victims and a lisk victim, which included phone calls to manorville (police all along said there is a strong connection to manorville and always said the lisk may live there), he was an avid and cruel hunter who had a chop shop shed in back of his house.
the final nail is that the last possible lisk victim was killed around 2012/13 and bittrolff was finally arrested for the previous two 1993 murders in 2014. and surprise surprise. nothing since. bittrolff is the lisk.

[curious]

Thanks, Abby. That's wonderful news. Of course, the release of evidence might just be the Suffolk Police's way of building a stronger case for court OR they may still be looking . . .

[Abby Normal]

New Story dated Jan. 17, 2020 by Minyvonne Burke for NBC News.

Evidence revealed in serial killer case nearly decade after 11 bodies found https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...cid=spartandhp

thanks curious. but the the lisk is in jail.

[curious]

has there been anything lately on the still active case? appears the LISK has gone quiet?

New Story dated Jan. 17, 2020 by Minyvonne Burke for NBC News.

Evidence revealed in serial killer case nearly decade after 11 bodies found https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...cid=spartandhp

[Abby Normal]

has there been anything lately on the still active case? appears the LISK has gone quiet?

also. I noticed something about the timeline. Shannon Gilbert went missing before the last two IDed victims-she is in between the first two and last two(of the four who were originally found and found near each other).

so if she is a victim of the LISK, the Lisk went on to shortly kill two more victims, dump them by the first two, eventhough SG brought on all the heat.

and even if she wasn't a victim of the LISK, he still went on to kill and dump two more victims in the same place!?! while the search for her was going on?
incredibly risky, no? or am I missing something.

what can this tell us about whether she was a victim or not..or about the killer?

[RockySullivan]

it's crazy how often incorrect myths are repeated with this case by those who are too lazy to look at the sources themselves. For instance, you will hear very often that the girls were "convinced" to leave their cell phones when going on a date with the last john before they disappeared. this is just an outright lie.

Another one is that they were found in burlap sacks...wrong. Only two of the 4 gilgo girls were found in burlap according to the original news reports. So other two were likely wrapped in garbage bags, like the dismembered remains along OP

[RockySullivan]

1. The Tattoo Artist

In 1997 on Long Island a young woman was found dismembered in a suitcase. The police had no leads but when they published a photo of the "Peaches" a Connecticut tattoo artist came forward with information. He said he gave the girl a tattoo, she was a young girl with her aunt visiting from long island who said she was having boyfriend trouble. Now this sure sounds like a bullshit story to me! Many of the victims have tattoos and when the killer called John Terry over 30 times he talked about the tattoos Terry had on his back. So here you have a tattoo artist who inserted himself into the investigation.

I posted about this a few years ago, the crazy thing is, the Tattoo artist now claims he got a call from Peaches mother who said she wanted a tattoo by the same artist for Peaches son, who was grown up now. Now the revelation and this story is even more bizarre!

[RockySullivan]

Yes indeed my friend! But even more shocking is the revelation that Peaches, the torso found in 1997, is actually the Toddler's Mother! LE managed to hide the information that they had a DNA match between Peaches and the Mother, who was always described as a separate individual. They hid this info for 5 mother****ing years! Pretty crazy

[jerryd]

I haven't followed the case much, but this was in the news today.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/15/lawyer-claims-link-between-ex-ny-police-chief-and-unsolved-long-island-murders.html