The Babysitter/Snow Killer

[sdreid]

In some fashion perhaps meaning involved in some sort of seasonal work.

Since all the murders occurred in the cold months, that's a major theory.

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Either way, it would seem that he must have watched them at all times or he was in some isolated area where they could not be heard yelling for help.

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2-He was unemployed in some fashion.

In some fashion perhaps meaning involved in some sort of seasonal work.

[sdreid]

Thing is, if this guy needed to use church as an excuse to be out in his van or whatever, then how'd he explain away the time he clearly spent with the kids in the days/weeks to follow? And where'd he keep them - at work?

All I can think is:

1-He had a very secure room where he could keep the kids locked up.
2-He was unemployed in some fashion.
3-He was self employed in an occupation where he didn't need to account for his whereabouts.
4-He had an accomplice so they could watch the children in shifts.

[Ausgirl]

Good thought, re the Wed/Sundays maybe being church sessions.

Thing is, if this guy needed to use church as an excuse to be out in his van or whatever, then how'd he explain away the time he clearly spent with the kids in the days/weeks to follow? And where'd he keep them - at work?

Really strange case. Thanks for posting on it.

Also - LOL at the Michael Moore experiment. Even if it is a bit scary.

[sdreid]

I don't see anything on IMDb about it yet so who knows about the new Gacy film. If it comes to fruition, hopefully it will reverse the downhill trend of John Wayne Gacy movies.

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Just recently it was revealed that a feature film about Gacy is in the planning stages.

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Kenneth Hanson's legal team, to no avail, also tried to implicate Gacy for the Chicago 1955 Matinée Murders.

Gacy was only 13 at the time so that made the claim quite dubious right at the start up.

[RivkahChaya]

From what I understand, Gacy went sniveling and crying to the death chamber, and Illinois, where he was executed, was really not a state that liked to execute-- the Death Penalty was outlawed in 2011. If Gacy had information to trade for a life sentence, I think he would have. Henry Lee Lucas managed to stay off Death Row by confessing to a list of crimes he didn't even really commit, and he not only stayed off Death Row, he got something of a royal treatment.

It's true that Gacy was humiliated by the exposure, and the press coverage of his crimes-- he seemed more upset about being thought of as gay, though, than being thought of as a killer. But he really didn't want to die, and as I understand it, pursued all his appeals. He even tried pretending he had multiple personalities. He pled insanity at trial, lost, then filed an appeal based on "inadequacy of counsel," because he wasn't insane, and his lawyer shouldn't have used that plea.

[sdreid]

Kenneth Hanson's legal team, to no avail, also tried to implicate Gacy for the Chicago 1955 Matinée Murders.

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We had a boy here named Richard Griener, 13, who disappeared and was presumed murdered in January of 1972. I don't know if there has been any investigation into either Gacy or the Babysitter for a possible tie-in.

[sdreid]

Gacy has become a convenient scapegoat in more than one case.

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I see on Wiki that John Wayne Gacy has been added to their suspect list.

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The case was on Unsolved Mysteries or some similar program but I don't recall when it played.

[RivkahChaya]

I love this comment from one of the recent articles I found, regarding the new suspect:

He's your typical grandpa," says Parma Heights Police Sergeant Wayne Mockler. "You wouldn't look twice.

Did anyone else in the US (who's old enough) watch Michael Moore's show TV Nation? After it had been a running joke for a while that any time a serial killer is arrested, all the neighbors say what a nice, normal guy he was, the crew of TV Nation rented a house in a nice, quiet suburb, and then pulled all the curtains and blinds, and started doing things like running power tools at 3am. They escalated over several weeks: they painted half the garage door red, and stopped. They left several huge bags out every trash day; they had several 50-gallon drums delivered, taken inside the house, then picked up a week later; they left a mattress with a huge, reddish-brown stain in the center, out with the trash one day; and then brought in a small back hoe, and dug a huge hole in the front yard. A couple of days later, they filled it in, and covered it with sod (which in the US is natural turf you can lay down in your yard, instead of spreading grass seed and waiting for it to grow).

Then, people from the show went and interviewed the neighbors, who all claimed they had not noticed anything unusual happening at the house.

Made me laugh.