R.L.S., H.J., & E.H.: a questions of sources and results

[Henry Flower]

Isn´t it sufficient with the "explanations" given by the attackers "Henry Flower", "David Orsam" and "GUT"?

Pierre

I take that as confirmation that I was more or less right. Thanks Pierre. Am adding you to my buddy list

[GUT]

Isn´t it sufficient with the "explanations" given by the attackers "Henry Flower", "David Orsam" and "GUT"?

Pierre

I've been included as one if the attackers, at least I'm in good company.

[Mayerling]

Why not. (You might get a tax deduction anyway).

Doesn't take much for that one to claim to be an expert on anything.

Still can't believe he claims to be a great historian

Silly GUT, I can't. I don't know the secret of the power for the motors of the "Nautilus" (Verne and "Nemo's" "Nautilus", not the actual one that is now at Groton's Submarine museum in Connecticut, which I have visited - that's a nuclear powered one). '

The limits to my knowledge of how to power pre-Holland and Lake subs is that of the U.S.S. Turtle (Bushnell's Revolutionary craft), and the C.S.S. Hunley (now found and being restored in Charleston), both of which were powered by men using cranks. Captain Nemo's men had some electricity, but the motors were run by something that wasn't quite explained.

Jeff

[Henry Flower]

I've been included as one if the attackers, at least I'm in good company.

How dare you, sir! I am an amoral animal.

[David Orsam]

Isn´t it sufficient with the "explanations" given by the attackers "Henry Flower", "David Orsam" and "GUT"?

I, for one, haven't put forward any explanation so this remark is very strange. Obviously Pierre is just evading a simple, reasonable and polite question.

Henry has, of course, nailed it. And when Pierre saw that one of the characters in the play was Sir Thomas White, the Lord Mayor of London, he realised he had found was the conclusive proof he was looking for.

Queen Mary, Princess Elizabeth and the Lord Mayor all in one play!! It could only mean one thing. Gogmagog is Jack the Ripper!

[Henry Flower]

I, for one, haven't put forward any explanation so this remark is very strange. Obviously Pierre is just evading a simple, reasonable and polite question.

Henry has, of course, nailed it. And when Pierre saw that one of the characters in the play was Sir Thomas White, the Lord Mayor of London, he realised he had found was the conclusive proof he was looking for.

Queen Mary, Princess Elizabeth and the Lord Mayor all in one play!! It could only mean one thing. Gogmagog is Jack the Ripper!

David, stop doing the man's treasure-hunting, I mean, clue-decoding, er, sorry - source analysis for him! Get out of his archives!

[Mayerling]

I, for one, haven't put forward any explanation so this remark is very strange. Obviously Pierre is just evading a simple, reasonable and polite question.

Henry has, of course, nailed it. And when Pierre saw that one of the characters in the play was Sir Thomas White, the Lord Mayor of London, he realised he had found was the conclusive proof he was looking for.

Queen Mary, Princess Elizabeth and the Lord Mayor all in one play!! It could only mean one thing. Gogmagog is Jack the Ripper!

No, it could also mean we should consider that Queen Mary's cousin and chief advisor, Cardinal Reginald de la Pole, was the unofficial ancestor of Jack the Ripper. Too bad the bodies of the victims were not burned at the stake - that would have been proof conclusive.

I still wish he'd explain how he came across that idiotic play!

Jeff

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

When Sir Thomas White (1492–1567) was Lord Mayor [1553], the Lord Mayor's Show was held on 29th October.

After Britain adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1751, the date of the Lord Mayor's Show was changed to 9th November.

Regards,

Simon

[David Orsam]

Despite Pierre claiming not to have mixed up his Marys, this is what he posted on 14 November 2015 in the thread 'Social Class of Jack the Ripper', while discussing the Gogmagog letter:

"...when you understand his hint at Tennyson, you can see why he posed the body of Mary Jane the way he did."

So Pierre was saying that when you understand that Tennyson was the author of 'Queen Mary' you can understand the pose of MJK, even though the pose he was referring to was in a portrait of Mary, Queen of Scots.

[Henry Flower]

Despite Pierre claiming not to have mixed up his Marys, this is what he posted on 14 November 2015 in the thread 'Social Class of Jack the Ripper', while discussing the Gogmagog letter:

"...when you understand his hint at Tennyson, you can see why he posed the body of Mary Jane the way he did."

So Pierre was saying that when you understand that Tennyson was the author of 'Queen Mary' you can understand the pose of MJK, even though the pose he was referring to was in a portrait of Mary, Queen of Scots.

Quite so, but let's wait and see if his rebuttal involves anything other than name-calling and resentment. Also, he might just rant that you are "lying", and hope the noise deflects attention from his catastrophic error.

[Henry Flower]

Mayerling, sir, I got distracted by the presence of the irritant Pierre, but I did intend to say what an enjoyable thread this has been. This is one of those side-streets off the man thoroughfare that makes Ripperology sometimes a real pleasure.

I was also interested to read more on the Phoenix Park assassination by The Invincibles, reference to which crops up repeatedly throughout my favourite novel, Joyce's Ulysses.

Many thanks sir.

[Mayerling]

Mayerling, sir, I got distracted by the presence of the irritant Pierre, but I did intend to say what an enjoyable thread this has been. This is one of those side-streets off the man thoroughfare that makes Ripperology sometimes a real pleasure.

I was also interested to read more on the Phoenix Park assassination by The Invincibles, reference to which crops up repeatedly throughout my favourite novel, Joyce's Ulysses.

Many thanks sir.

Thanks Henry, I hoped it would be an enjoyable thread. Literary connections always appeal to me, but this seemed more at home in the "Social Chat" threads than the more serious minded ones. Feel free to just discuss the Stevenson and Conan Doyle matters. I may also return to that formerly mentioned theory of mine concerning Doyle, Oscar Wilde, and Macnaughten that I added on another thread some time back.

Jeff

[Sam Flynn]

When Sir Thomas White (1492–1567) was Lord Mayor [1553].

In 1888, of course, the Lord Mayor was another "White"; Sir James Whitehead, to be precise.

/trivia

[GUT]

Silly GUT, I can't. I don't know the secret of the power for the motors of the "Nautilus" (Verne and "Nemo's" "Nautilus", not the actual one that is now at Groton's Submarine museum in Connecticut, which I have visited - that's a nuclear powered one). '

The limits to my knowledge of how to power pre-Holland and Lake subs is that of the U.S.S. Turtle (Bushnell's Revolutionary craft), and the C.S.S. Hunley (now found and being restored in Charleston), both of which were powered by men using cranks. Captain Nemo's men had some electricity, but the motors were run by something that wasn't quite explained.

Jeff

Groton, an interesting name.

[GUT]

How dare you, sir! I am an amoral animal.

See, good company for me to be in.