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    Hi, newbie on the doorstep, ringing the bell. Hello to all here.

    I've been reading (lurking) here for a few years. Developed some knowledge about the elements involved. Thought it only right to thank everyone here for so much valuable information and discussion, and to maybe contribute some thoughts of mine at times.

    Current reading: The Bank Holiday Murders by Wescott, and They all Love Jack by Robinson. Impressed by both.

    Research attitude: neutrality towards all candidates, scenarios and researchers/potsters. Anticipation of research and new evidence for some avenues.

    Current perspective: among other scenarios, the Druitt storyline.

    Is anyone else reading either of the above books, and do you have any impressions of them?

    Cheers to you all.
    Last edited by MBDecre; 12-16-2015, 04:10 PM.

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    Welcome to Casebook.
    G U T

    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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    • #3
      Hello there, and welcome. I've read "The Bank Holiday Murders", and was most impressed by it.
      - Ginger

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      • #4
        Hi Ginger, Hi GUT. Thanks for the welcome.

        Me too, I found myself following Tom Wescott's research with amazement. It was so refreshing to be given new information, rather than the same old info rehashed. More power to Tom's elbow.

        Part of my amazement was that no one had pieced this all together before. I found myself wondering if some or many of the murders (from about 11 total) might have resulted from 1 or more nasty women, and the whole 1 or more nasty men scenario has been blinding most in the period, and it seems everyone since. Astonishing.

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        • #5
          Hello. I have read "They All Love Jack" and well so as not to spoil it for you I just found it a tough read. Haven't read the other yet but hope to do so soon. I too am new here and am enjoying being here. Hope you do too.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ginger View Post
            Hello there, and welcome. I've read "The Bank Holiday Murders", and was most impressed by it.
            Yep even the bits I didn't agree with I enjoyed reading.
            G U T

            There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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            • #7
              A big warm welcome from me ...we are one big happy family on here people always get on there's no arguing you will find people very open-minded on here and very willing to change their way of thinking .
              Three things in life that don't stay hidden for to long ones the sun ones the moon and the other is the truth

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              • #8
                Hi guys.

                thanks all for the warm welcomes .

                Marie0 : nearly finished "they all love jack". It's certainly a different style, which I mostly found refreshing. It seemed there were a few stretches of logic but otherwise some strong ideas. Some strange links between key and previously unknown 'players' in the broader scheme of JtR history. One of the first synthesies of the JtR letters that I've found mostly believable. Good to speak to another new member.

                Pinkmoon : thanks.

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                • #9
                  Hello, MBDecre, welcome!
                  (Pinkmoon, don't lie to the cadets!)
                  Seriously, all of the conversations here are interesting, and there are many opinions expressed here.
                  Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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                  Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post
                    Hello, MBDecre, welcome!
                    (Pinkmoon, don't lie to the cadets!)
                    Seriously, all of the conversations here are interesting, and there are many opinions expressed here.
                    Yeah MBDecre

                    Don't believe Pinky.
                    G U T

                    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                    • #11
                      Chuckle. Been reading casebook a while - so what can I say?!!
                      There are many interesting discussions - in between the fights !! Wink.

                      Thanks for the welcome Pinkmoon and Pcdunn.

                      Do any of you want to say if you have a particular take on who and why JtR?
                      Big questions I know! But just for fun.

                      I trained in archaeology which made me try to be neutrally attentive to everyones point of view. My view is open till i find something really convincing, I digest it keenly, then i find my view is still open. it seems to best help my research.

                      I'm currently thinking about the Maybrick angle via "They all love jack" by Robinson. Not really had confidence in the James Maybrick angle before, but the Michael Maybrick angle seems quite cogent to me just now. But like I said before, Tom Wescott's Bank Holiday Murders has also just got my mental juices going now too!

                      Cheers
                      Last edited by MBDecre; 12-18-2015, 05:12 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MBDecre View Post
                        Hi, newbie on the doorstep, ringing the bell. Hello to all here.

                        I've been reading (lurking) here for a few years. Developed some knowledge about the elements involved. Thought it only right to thank everyone here for so much valuable information and discussion, and to maybe contribute some thoughts of mine at times.

                        Current reading: The Bank Holiday Murders by Wescott, and They all Love Jack by Robinson. Impressed by both.

                        Research attitude: neutrality towards all candidates, scenarios and researchers/potsters. Anticipation of research and new evidence for some avenues.

                        Current perspective: among other scenarios, the Druitt storyline.

                        Is anyone else reading either of the above books, and do you have any impressions of them?

                        Cheers to you all.
                        May I recommend Rob Houses book: Prime Suspect

                        While many who post here believe the identity of the killer unknown, the fact is that those who investigated the case believed the case solved, even if their suspects, Druit, Chapman and Kozminski are not the same...so i guess why they believed what they did and apparently contradict each other, is still the biggest mystery of all, given that they were all credible police officers with no apparent reason to lie or make stuff up.

                        Good luck with your journey

                        Yours Jeff

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                        • #13
                          Hi Jeff, thanks for your welcome.

                          I don't think I have Rob Houses' book, will see what the reviews on Amazon say. Thanks.

                          Agreed re the mystery of why police seniors thought they had the case solved, but have some reservations about their motives and even their truthfulness. As you say, no overt proof they mishandled things deliberately, but I'd really recommend Robinson's "They all love Jack" for anyone who doesn't mind their notions shaken up... on almost everything, but especially re the police seniors.

                          I'm by no means convinced re Druitt, but Blood on the Cobbles (ebook) does a lot to follow and shine new light on Druitt, and there is a lot of really strange connections of intrigue showing up around Druitt now...

                          Good to speak Jeff.

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                          • #14
                            Hi MBDecre,
                            Welcome on board.
                            have already spoken I think on the boards, Trained in Archaeology, thats really
                            Great.

                            I can back up Jeff’s recommendation on Rob house's book. very well researched.
                            Elamarna.

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                            • #15
                              Glad you're enjoying it here, MBDecre. I lurked for awhile before joining last December, and do like reading the discussions. So who will be the next suspect?

                              I am interested in Druitt, James Kelly, and some lesser known names. Need to do a lot more reading to get up to speed with recent developments, still.
                              Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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                              Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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