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[richardnunweek]

Hi.
I have been on this site since around 1998-99, so have posted thousands of posts, it is a very respectable site as forums go, we tend to have very strong opinions, which is healthy, and all in all, stated without too much aggravation.
So all newbies,welcome, join in, and Merry Christmas.
Regards Richard.

[Jeff Leahy]

Agreed re the mystery of why police seniors thought they had the case solved, but have some reservations about their motives and even their truthfulness. As you say, no overt proof they mishandled things deliberately, but I'd really recommend Robinson's "They all love Jack" for anyone who doesn't mind their notions shaken up... on almost everything, but especially re the police seniors.

Many thanks.

I'd take anyones attempt to discredit senior police officers involved with a pinch of salt...It's basically a pre-requeset for anyone trying to pitch a theory outside the main stream.... So it goes hand in hand with the usual 'He must have lied' or 'he must have been forgetful' arguments. There is of course no evidence for this and they can be easily proved incorrect, when the case is actually scrutinised..

But good luck and Merry Xmas. .Jeff

[drstrange169]

Hello MBDecre,

Tom and Rob's books are excellent, although I personally don't agree with sections of them, there's a lot of good information in them and are definitely
worthy of including in any Jtr library.

Bruce Robinson's ... well it's a bit of nostalgic fun, back to 1970's ripperogoly,
but needs to be read with a very suspicious eye, cross checking against the actual facts as opposed the the ones he claims are true.

[MBDecre]

Hi Elmarana, thanks for the welcome. Yes we've spoken, and enjoying the debate. Loved archaeology since childhood. Other work involves: social history, architechtural history, costume history, etc. I'll look for Rob House's book today. Cheers.

Hi PcDunn, Druitt is interesting isn't he. Like you I find the lesser known names interesting. At the moment I don't think Druitt was JtR, just on gut instinct. But i think my impression is changing the other way, gradually. If you don't have Blood on the Cobbles yet, you might find it intruiging re Druitt. It opens some big possibilities up. Tangled ones, but big.

[Pcdunn]

Glad you're enjoying it here, MBDecre. I lurked for awhile before joining last December, and do like reading the discussions. So who will be the next suspect?

I am interested in Druitt, James Kelly, and some lesser known names. Need to do a lot more reading to get up to speed with recent developments, still.

[Elamarna]

Hi MBDecre,
Welcome on board.
have already spoken I think on the boards, Trained in Archaeology, thats really
Great.

I can back up Jeff’s recommendation on Rob house's book. very well researched.
Elamarna.

[MBDecre]

Hi Jeff, thanks for your welcome.

I don't think I have Rob Houses' book, will see what the reviews on Amazon say. Thanks.

Agreed re the mystery of why police seniors thought they had the case solved, but have some reservations about their motives and even their truthfulness. As you say, no overt proof they mishandled things deliberately, but I'd really recommend Robinson's "They all love Jack" for anyone who doesn't mind their notions shaken up... on almost everything, but especially re the police seniors.

I'm by no means convinced re Druitt, but Blood on the Cobbles (ebook) does a lot to follow and shine new light on Druitt, and there is a lot of really strange connections of intrigue showing up around Druitt now...

Good to speak Jeff.

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi, newbie on the doorstep, ringing the bell. Hello to all here.

I've been reading (lurking) here for a few years. Developed some knowledge about the elements involved. Thought it only right to thank everyone here for so much valuable information and discussion, and to maybe contribute some thoughts of mine at times.

Current reading: The Bank Holiday Murders by Wescott, and They all Love Jack by Robinson. Impressed by both.

Research attitude: neutrality towards all candidates, scenarios and researchers/potsters. Anticipation of research and new evidence for some avenues.

Current perspective: among other scenarios, the Druitt storyline.

Is anyone else reading either of the above books, and do you have any impressions of them?

Cheers to you all.

May I recommend Rob Houses book: Prime Suspect

While many who post here believe the identity of the killer unknown, the fact is that those who investigated the case believed the case solved, even if their suspects, Druit, Chapman and Kozminski are not the same...so i guess why they believed what they did and apparently contradict each other, is still the biggest mystery of all, given that they were all credible police officers with no apparent reason to lie or make stuff up.

Good luck with your journey

Yours Jeff

[MBDecre]

Chuckle. Been reading casebook a while - so what can I say?!!
There are many interesting discussions - in between the fights !! Wink.

Thanks for the welcome Pinkmoon and Pcdunn.

Do any of you want to say if you have a particular take on who and why JtR?
Big questions I know! But just for fun.

I trained in archaeology which made me try to be neutrally attentive to everyones point of view. My view is open till i find something really convincing, I digest it keenly, then i find my view is still open. it seems to best help my research.

I'm currently thinking about the Maybrick angle via "They all love jack" by Robinson. Not really had confidence in the James Maybrick angle before, but the Michael Maybrick angle seems quite cogent to me just now. But like I said before, Tom Wescott's Bank Holiday Murders has also just got my mental juices going now too!

Cheers

[GUT]

Hello, MBDecre, welcome!
(Pinkmoon, don't lie to the cadets!)
Seriously, all of the conversations here are interesting, and there are many opinions expressed here.

Yeah MBDecre

Don't believe Pinky.

[Pcdunn]

Hello, MBDecre, welcome!
(Pinkmoon, don't lie to the cadets!)
Seriously, all of the conversations here are interesting, and there are many opinions expressed here.

[MBDecre]

Hi guys.

thanks all for the warm welcomes .

Marie0 : nearly finished "they all love jack". It's certainly a different style, which I mostly found refreshing. It seemed there were a few stretches of logic but otherwise some strong ideas. Some strange links between key and previously unknown 'players' in the broader scheme of JtR history. One of the first synthesies of the JtR letters that I've found mostly believable. Good to speak to another new member.

Pinkmoon : thanks.

[pinkmoon]

A big warm welcome from me ...we are one big happy family on here people always get on there's no arguing you will find people very open-minded on here and very willing to change their way of thinking .

[GUT]

Hello there, and welcome. I've read "The Bank Holiday Murders", and was most impressed by it.

Yep even the bits I didn't agree with I enjoyed reading.

[MarieO]

Hello. I have read "They All Love Jack" and well so as not to spoil it for you I just found it a tough read. Haven't read the other yet but hope to do so soon. I too am new here and am enjoying being here. Hope you do too.