Clerk Who Won't Issue Marriage License to Gay Couples Has Been Married 4 Times

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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/02/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-divorced-three-times

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[GUT]

Married 4 times, talk about a glutton for punishment.

[sdreid]

By "God's Law" I think she would still be married to her first husband so I guess by "God's Law" she's a bigamist.

[Shaggyrand]

I still do not understand...

Why hasn't she been removed from her post? That I don't get. Shes refusing to do her job. I would be fired for that regardless of my reason and I'd happily privately acknowledge they were right while taking it in on a GoFundMe.

[GUT]

By "God's Law" I think she would still be married to her first husband so I guess by "God's Law" she's a bigamist.

Dead right.

[Errata]

Why hasn't she been removed from her post? That I don't get. Shes refusing to do her job. I would be fired for that regardless of my reason and I'd happily privately acknowledge they were right while taking it in on a GoFundMe.

She's an elected official. She has to be impeached or removed by state senate vote or something equally difficult. I'm not sure she can even be recalled. It's like firing a mayor.

[Shaggyrand]

Right. I knew that. Running on crazy low sleep & things just aren't firing properly. Gears jam, I become dumber than usual... And start to drool.

[kensei]

I say the same thing about this woman that I've said about people like the bakers who refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding on religious grounds. Religious liberty allows you not to take part in acts you consider to be sinful, but does not allow you to prevent others from taking part. In short, you don't get to force your beliefs on others. The only way this woman's religious liberty could be infringed upon in this case is if someone wanted to try and force her to turn gay herself and to practice homosexuality, but no one is doing that. Also, on the same grounds she is citing now she should refuse to grant marriage licenses to straight couples who are not Christian, or when a Christian wants to marry a non-Christian. But I'll bet she doesn't do that. So common for people like this to be hypocritical.

[GUT]

I say the same thing about this woman that I've said about people like the bakers who refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding on religious grounds. Religious liberty allows you not to take part in acts you consider to be sinful, but does not allow you to prevent others from taking part. In short, you don't get to force your beliefs on others. The only way this woman's religious liberty could be infringed upon in this case is if someone wanted to try and force her to turn gay herself and to practice homosexuality, but no one is doing that. Also, on the same grounds she is citing now she should refuse to grant marriage licenses to straight couples who are not Christian, or when a Christian wants to marry a non-Christian. But I'll bet she doesn't do that. So common for people like this to be hypocritical.

Religious don't have a monopoly of hypocrisy though.

But I agree if she wants to use the Bible to back her arguments she should be refusing to marry christian and non christian divorcees and really needs to have a good long look at herself, if she's been divorced three times.

[pinkmoon]

Married 4 times, talk about a glutton for punishment.

I just can't imagine the pain and misery that the exposure to four yes four mother in laws could cause it would be worse than a death sentence.

[Rosella]

I don't think she would have been worried about that. She was too busy. While married to husband number one she became pregnant with twins by the man who later became husband number three. However, after the divorce from number one she married number two husband, who adopted her twins. After divorcing him after a few years, she married number three, the father of her children. They were divorced within eighteen months. She's now on marriage number four!

She stated that she became a Christian four years ago.

[RivkahChaya]

In some denominations, no one cares if you've been married outside of the denomination-- those marriages, and therefore divorces don't count. If you've been married, but not as a Roman Catholic, you can still get married in the church, I'm pretty sure. If you're Jewish, and married, but it wasn't a Jewish wedding, then you don't need a "get," or Jewish divorce to be remarried as a Jew.

So if this judge has been married only once in her new Christian faith, in her mind, it may be her only real marriage, and in a sense (to her, at any rate), she's only been married once. If she belongs to a fundamentalist denomination in the US, there's no use arguing with her. They make their own rules. I dealt with people who belonged to these denominations when I was a social worker. It can be amazing what they make work in their worlds, but to them it makes perfect sense, and is right with their deity.

I'm sure this woman sees absolutely no contradiction or hypocrisy at all in her remarriages vs. gay marriages, and everyone at her church probably agrees with her. They also probably admire her for taking a stand for Jesus, and support her now that she's being "persecuted"-- something Christians secretly love, if you ask me. There aren't too many ways a Christian can be truly persecuted in the modern day (in the US at any rate), and so Christians don't get many opportunities to persevere in the face of it. They like to make these little crises that allow them their "persecutions," so they can be like the original Christians. That's how we had a war on Christmas.

[barnflatwyngarde]

In some denominations, no one cares if you've been married outside of the denomination-- those marriages, and therefore divorces don't count. If you've been married, but not as a Roman Catholic, you can still get married in the church, I'm pretty sure. If you're Jewish, and married, but it wasn't a Jewish wedding, then you don't need a "get," or Jewish divorce to be remarried as a Jew.

So if this judge has been married only once in her new Christian faith, in her mind, it may be her only real marriage, and in a sense (to her, at any rate), she's only been married once. If she belongs to a fundamentalist denomination in the US, there's no use arguing with her. They make their own rules. I dealt with people who belonged to these denominations when I was a social worker. It can be amazing what they make work in their worlds, but to them it makes perfect sense, and is right with their deity.

I'm sure this woman sees absolutely no contradiction or hypocrisy at all in her remarriages vs. gay marriages, and everyone at her church probably agrees with her. They also probably admire her for taking a stand for Jesus, and support her now that she's being "persecuted"-- something Christians secretly love, if you ask me. There aren't too many ways a Christian can be truly persecuted in the modern day (in the US at any rate), and so Christians don't get many opportunities to persevere in the face of it. They like to make these little crises that allow them their "persecutions," so they can be like the original Christians. That's how we had a war on Christmas.

Another example of the dangers in having an invisible friend!

[Limehouse]

She states that gay marriage 'goes against the teaching of Jesus' but he never, ever expressed such a view about homosexuality.

If she does not wish to issue licences for gay marriages, surely she should find another job?

[RivkahChaya]

You would think that about pharmacists who don't want to dispense birth control, or the "morning after" pill, too, but nope. Christians think Jesus trumps everything, and that "freedom of religion" means that they should never have to do anything they don't want to.

Issuing marriage licenses to gay people isn't a form of worship of another deity. People of other faiths in the US either compromise or give up things all the time, but it's a concept entirely foreign to Christians.