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Man Arrested for Filming Fatal Car Crash Instead of Helping Victims
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Admittedly, the man's an unspeakable dick, but I do wonder how he was supposed to know that the vehicle was a crime scene? Had the police put up crime scene tape? Did he stay in the area after the police told him to leave?
Also, Detective Sivert pretty much admitted there that they charged him from a sense of personal animosity rather than to impartially uphold the law.
I'm going to bet he'll get off scot-free at the very least, and win substantial money if he's lucky and can find a good lawyer who will represent him.- Ginger
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Originally posted by c.d. View Post
We had a case here recently where a man was stood on a building contemplating suicide and a gang of idiots were below telling him to jump, and they were recording it all on their phones. And, I think he did actually jump and killed himself.
Absolute idiots these people.
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Originally posted by GUT View PostNot sure which offends me the worst, his behavior in failing to help or being charged over it.
But he opened up their car door and went in to film them in close up. That's breaking and entering as far as I am concerned. Good Samaritans are shielded from any harm they may cause or slightly criminal activity if they are trying to assist in helping. They can enter a burning house to help drag people out. They can't enter a house to film it or steal contents, which as far as I am concerned is what he did.
**** him. Like I said, if he'd just stood on the sidelines, that's one thing. Actually opening the door of the car and getting in the way of people trying to help to make his buck? He should be charged with criminal negligence too as far as I am concerned.
Let all Oz be agreed;
I need a better class of flying monkeys.
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Any event in life is grist for the insatiable mill of the Internet, it seems.Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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Originally posted by Ally View PostI'm okay with them charging him. If he'd stood to the side and filmed it, even zooming in or whatever, then fine. That's his right, though he's an utter dick.
But he opened up their car door and went in to film them in close up. That's breaking and entering as far as I am concerned. Good Samaritans are shielded from any harm they may cause or slightly criminal activity if they are trying to assist in helping. They can enter a burning house to help drag people out. They can't enter a house to film it or steal contents, which as far as I am concerned is what he did.
**** him. Like I said, if he'd just stood on the sidelines, that's one thing. Actually opening the door of the car and getting in the way of people trying to help to make his buck? He should be charged with criminal negligence too as far as I am concerned.
I wasn't aware he got in the way of those trying to help. That changes things.G U T
There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
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It is just disgusting.
I read elsewhere that they considered what to charge him with, and settled for "interfering at an accident scene", because he had opened the car door prior to the arrival of the first responders, who usually like to take that task on.
The police spokesman said there is no law against filming any accident, but they did want to remind people that offering aid and assistance to the injured is encouraged of all citizens.Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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Originally posted by Pcdunn View PostIt is just disgusting.
I read elsewhere that they considered what to charge him with, and settled for "interfering at an accident scene", because he had opened the car door prior to the arrival of the first responders, who usually like to take that task on.
The police spokesman said there is no law against filming any accident, but they did want to remind people that offering aid and assistance to the injured is encouraged of all citizens.
That's what worries me, they as good as admit that he dd nothing wrong, just didn't do what was right.G U T
There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
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Actually he did do something wrong. It's wrong to open someone's car door and climb inside without their permission. If someone entered my car to film me, I'd shoot them. The fact that they'd been in an accident is irrelevant. He had no right to open the car door and enter their car. Period.
Let all Oz be agreed;
I need a better class of flying monkeys.
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Originally posted by Ally View PostActually he did do something wrong. It's wrong to open someone's car door and climb inside without their permission. If someone entered my car to film me, I'd shoot them. The fact that they'd been in an accident is irrelevant. He had no right to open the car door and enter their car. Period.G U T
There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
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Because entering someone's property without the shield of the good samaritan law IS what he did wrong. Other people went into their car. The difference is, he committed criminal trespass because motives matter. People who entered to help are shielded by Good Samaritan laws. People who trespass for personal gain are criminals. Motives in what you do actually matter.
That's the difference.
Let all Oz be agreed;
I need a better class of flying monkeys.
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Originally posted by Ally View PostBecause entering someone's property without the shield of the good samaritan law IS what he did wrong. Other people went into their car. The difference is, he committed criminal trespass because motives matter. People who entered to help are shielded by Good Samaritan laws. People who trespass for personal gain are criminals. Motives in what you do actually matter.
That's the difference.
The guy said he was trying to make a warning film, not anything "gorey", but I don't buy it. I have heard of websites with "pictures of dead people and accidents and stuff", and I'd bet you dollars to doughnuts that's what he intended for it.Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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