Irritations

[Herlock Sholmes]

Hi Mike.

I probably should have posted this 'irritant' elsewhere, but I didn't think it was worthy of its own thread.

I don't want to criticize the prosecution, because I fully understand and agree with their concern, but it could be that they overreached and charged Prussak with more serious crimes than could be definitively proven. But it is indeed jaw dropping that the jury thew out all of it and didn't find him guilty of at least the lesser charges.

I hope this is the last we hear of him, but I shudder to think that it won't be. Having read a lot of 'true crime,' leniency or avoidance of justice only tends to embolden a certain type of offender, if offender he intended to be.

Hi Roger,

I completely agree. Did this creep have OJ’s Legal Team behind him? Let’s hope that in a few years time when they’re finding bodies you don’t have reason to post a link to post number 176 of this thread.

[rjpalmer]

That’s a jaw-dropper Roger. Let’s hope that some disaster befalls this guy before he meets his next victim. The Judge and jury should be ashamed of themselves. There should be a re-trial and an inquiry.

Hi Mike.

I probably should have posted this 'irritant' elsewhere, but I didn't think it was worthy of its own thread.

I don't want to criticize the prosecution, because I fully understand and agree with their concern, but it could be that they overreached and charged Prussak with more serious crimes than could be definitively proven. But it is indeed jaw dropping that the jury thew out all of it and didn't find him guilty of at least the lesser charges.

I hope this is the last we hear of him, but I shudder to think that it won't be. Having read a lot of 'true crime,' leniency or avoidance of justice only tends to embolden a certain type of offender, if offender he intended to be.

[Tani]

You make that seem like a negative thing, Tani.

c.d.

Regardless, I don't think they should do it around children

[c.d.]

'Halloween is for children.'

Women proceed to wear the sluttiest costumes going.

You make that seem like a negative thing, Tani.

c.d.

[Duran duren]

Furthermore Abby, Champagne Supernova is just legit still to this day...

[Duran duren]

i know im gonna get lambasted for this but ive always liked oasis. theyre a big hot mess, alot of songs are nice little pop ditties with many verging on the rawer side, fighting brothers, huge band at one point.etc

plus i liked other bands from the genre including blur. it was all just a tad different, maybe the allure of something a little new.

their stuff is nothing groundbreaking but at least they are interesting.

however imho they and most other contemp bands way pale in comparison to the main new(ish) genre at the time... Grunge, which imho was the last great genre of rock.

Amen on that last sentence

[Tani]

'Halloween is for children.'

Women proceed to wear the sluttiest costumes going.

[Tani]

Why did the Personnel Department become Human Resources? In my working days I resented being classified as a resource rather than as a loyal member of staff.

Our work calls it the 'People Team' and somehow that just sounds even worse.

There is just not a nice name for these generally vile people.

Even so, I think I'd go with 'Team for Before the Company Hires Lawyers They Hire Us.'

[mpriestnall]

I'm 99% certain this is the same 'Robert Prussak' of California who had a restraining order against him by his ex-wife for domestic battery and sexual assault. Also, he allegedly had a 'nanny ap' installed on her phone to stalk her.

To state the blindingly obvious, no 57-year-old-man has any business taking a 9-year-old girl back to his flat. This was kidnapping.

Yes, I'm irritated.

I read news reports online that he went with the girl past police (twice) and security staff in the street and that for several hours (two?) there was no evidence on his phone of him trying to contact the police, which all seems rather odd.

[Abby Normal]

i know im gonna get lambasted for this but ive always liked oasis. theyre a big hot mess, alot of songs are nice little pop ditties with many verging on the rawer side, fighting brothers, huge band at one point.etc

plus i liked other bands from the genre including blur. it was all just a tad different, maybe the allure of something a little new.

their stuff is nothing groundbreaking but at least they are interesting.

however imho they and most other contemp bands way pale in comparison to the main new(ish) genre at the time... Grunge, which imho was the last great genre of rock.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I'm 99% certain this is the same 'Robert Prussak' of California who had a restraining order against him by his ex-wife for domestic battery and sexual assault. Also, he allegedly had a 'nanny ap' installed on her phone to stalk her.

To state the blindingly obvious, no 57-year-old-man has any business taking a 9-year-old girl back to his flat. This was kidnapping.

Yes, I'm irritated.

That’s a jaw-dropper Roger. Let’s hope that some disaster befalls this guy before he meets his next victim. The Judge and jury should be ashamed of themselves. There should be a re-trial and an inquiry.

[rjpalmer]

I'm 99% certain this is the same 'Robert Prussak' of California who had a restraining order against him by his ex-wife for domestic battery and sexual assault. Also, he allegedly had a 'nanny ap' installed on her phone to stalk her.

To state the blindingly obvious, no 57-year-old-man has any business taking a 9-year-old girl back to his flat. This was kidnapping.

Yes, I'm irritated.

[rjpalmer]

What the actual...

I read this on the BBC this morning:


"A former US Air Force pilot accused of kidnapping a nine-year-old girl outside Harrods and then sexually assaulting her has been found not guilty.

Robert Prussak approached the girl at the central London department store when she became separated from her family during a trip from France on 22 April.

He then walked her to his flat, and was accused of giving her bitter-tasting water allegedly containing the antihistamine Benadryl, which left her tired, the court had heard.

The 57-year-old, of no fixed address, was cleared of the offences at Isleworth Crown Court on Tuesday.

It was alleged that the pilot took the girl from the flat to Hyde Park and sexually assaulted her.

Mr Prussak was arrested later on the same day after he and the girl were spotted walking past the Israeli embassy by a Metropolitan Police officer who had been informed she was missing.

He was searched and said, "I was just trying to help her out", according to Sgt Edward Lucas.

Mr Prussak had denied all the charges against him.

Judge Edward Connell told Mr Prussak, who broke down in the dock as he was acquitted, that he was free to go.

Jurors had asked if there was any DNA evidence of the sexual assault just over an hour after they started deliberating on Monday, and the judge said there was not.

Mr Prussak was found not guilty of three counts of sexual assault of a child under the age of 13.

He was also cleared of one count of kidnapping, one count of committing an offence of kidnapping with an intent to commit a sexual offence, and one count of administering a substance with intent.

On Tuesday, the Metropolitan Police arrested a 57-year-old man at Isleworth Crown Court on suspicion of possessing indecent images of children.

He was taken to a police station and remains in custody."


Presumably, not the same 57-year-old man?

[Enigma]

Right on Ms D.

Maybe the reason for the change in name was because people used to refer to them as the anti personnel department, and for good reason.

[Ms Diddles]

Why did the Personnel Department become Human Resources? In my working days I resented being classified as a resource rather than as a loyal member of staff.

I hear what you're saying Gazza

TBH I would personally go one stage further and add actual HR / Personnel Depts to the list of irritations.

I mean, I feel for people working in HR.

That must be like staring into the abyss.

The lengths that they go to to justify their existence is pitiable.

Developing protocols, processes and procedures which are so convoluted that anyone with an actual job to do has no time (or inclination) to look at them.

Meetings about meetings about meetings.

Bloody constant "Survey Monkeys".

Do you consider your workplace to be PIE (a Psychologically Informed Environment)?

Oh I'm sorry, I tried to complete the survey but there didn't appear to be a tick box for "go f*!k yourself"?